On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 09:16 +1000, Res wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Jun 2009, rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote:
> 
> >> This is wrong. if you have evidence, show it. if not, stop spreading
> >> rumours. I have delisted an IP in the past, and I have been watching
> >> people trying to delist a block but without clues on how to do it...
> >>
> > I have to agree with Mouss here. I've not tried with Sorbs but I used to
> > get a ton of calls at Barracuda because people had ended up on their
> > 'reputation' list. Charming calls in fact, often describe sexual acts my
> > mother was alleged to perform in the vicinity of the devil.
> >
> 
> You agree with him but have never had to do it? Thats akin to trolling 
> since you admit you speak without knowing first hand, I speak from first 
> hand, and I wont lose any sleep over some ignorant clown who calls me a
> liar, however, any respect I had for that person is now out the window,
> I have no doubt that there might be 'spammer safe havens' that they have
> refused to de-list without payment, but they never demanded it from us,
> 2006 I think it was when one of our key servers got listed, once they were 
> happy that we dealt with the (virus infected windows) customer, all was 
> good, Matthew created us a login on their site so that we could see all 
> the headers for any complaints, and deal with them promptly like we 
> always did once we knew who they were.
> 
> 
I agree with the point that getting delisted is probably not that
difficult - but yes, as far as sorbs has gone I've not had to try.
Therefore I related similar experience but appreciate that is not exact.

Personally I have mixed views on charging for delisting. In some
instances it would be appropriate and I would not dismiss it out of
hand. Certainly for repeat offenders I think it would be highly
desirable.

I don't recall saying you were a liar anywhere and I'm glad you are not
going to loose any sleep. I don't tend to loose sleep over people having
hissy fits, throwing their toys out of their prams and suggesting people
are 'trolls' because they don't like the opinions of others.

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