Neil,

Based on our "Requests for Removal" filed over the past 3+ weeks from 
ReturnPath, the number of IPs that you are claiming to have had issues with 
appears inflated by a factor of nearly 50%.

More importantly, I feel it is irresponsible to oversimplify a cleared listing 
as a "false positive" when speaking of *any* IP reputation system.

Barracuda Reputation does not arbitrarily list hosts.  Messages have passed 
through each host with characteristics indicative of spam.  Those listings 
would only have been cleared because someone contacted the BRBL team and 
requested their clearance - explicitly volunteering /some/ measure of 
responsibility for those hosts going forward.  _Accepting_ your 
possibly-inflated numbers, the 409 IPs otherwise met the criteria for clearing, 
so they were cleared.  Apparently 22 IPs did not, and those were not cleared.

That those same 431 listings were not found on any other DNSBLs of which you 
are aware would be what most people call a feature.  



        Bob



-----Original Message-----
From: Neil Schwartzman [mailto:neil.schwartz...@returnpath.net] 
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 10:58 AM
To: Karsten Bräckelmann; Spamassassin
Subject: Re: Barracuda Blacklist

On 28/05/09 10:42 AM, "Karsten Bräckelmann" <guent...@rudersport.de> wrote:

> Yes, every list does have occasional FPs. So your point about those 22
> listings is what exactly?

My point is the 409 false positives. Sorry if I was unclear or obtuse.
-- 
Neil Schwartzman
Director, Accreditation Security & Standards
Certified | Safelist
Return Path Inc.
0142002038



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