vbounce does an increasable job of blocking those pesky backscatters from networks that do not validate their valid users on the 'bastion ' email server or proxy (and those who still insist on bouncing forged viruses, or spammers who create phoney email 'bounces')

one of its strengths is also one of its weaknesses.

in order to allow VALID bounces, it compares a set of whitelisted relays to the part of the original email (headers) included in the bounce.

There comes its weakness.

'bounces' (or things vbounce things are bounces) like vacation, out of office and read receipt messages match signatures in vbounce, but never include the original emails.

one more thing, well, many more do this also.

Take automated ticketing systems (like RT).  it adds a

Auto-Submitted: auto-generated


header line.

so does bugzilla.

so, ironically (as in both strange AND funny), if you post a bug to spamassassin's bugzilla, and get an automated email from it, vbounce marks it as BOUNCE_MESSAGE && ANY_BOUNCE_MESSAGE. happens with emails from clamav when you submit a signature, and silly people at live (msn things) when you ask for a password reminder.


I suggest taking things out of vbounce that do not and cannot ever have the whitelist relays in it.

from a cpu / load standpoint, why bother checking whitelisted relays against signatures that cannot possibly have whitelist relays in it?

From a maintenance and scoring standpoint, shouldn't the 'other bounces'/ machine generate emails be in a different file?

Just my thoughts, what say you users who have to use this in production environments?

(ps, I already posted a suggested patch to vbounce that takes (many) of the out of office messages out of the BOUNCE_MESSAGE and creates an OOO_BOUNCE_MESSAGE subsection, and will be experimenting with read receipt ones also)

Id like to work on patches if there is an agreement as to what makes good practice. Like to keep it as upward compatible (as in not break anything) as possible.


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