On 12/11/2008 at 12:45 PM Jeff Chan wrote:

>On Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 3:15:26 AM, Henrik K wrote:
>> On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 04:33:50PM -0800, Jeff Chan wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Micah,
>>> Thanks very much for the feedback.  Does anyone know how many
>>> non-profits have more than 1,000 users (i.e., users with
>>> mailboxes)?  The non-profit pricing is below ISPs and half that
>>> of regular end users.
>
>> Sometimes the requirements make no sense. A server with 1 user can
>receive
>> more spam than a server with 1000 users. Both may be non-profit and
>receive
>> no money from users. There is a huge difference also whether you use
>> greylisting and other rules _before_ blacklist checks.
>
>> So which is it, 250000 messages (queries) or 1000 users?
>
>> 1000 users and 10000 messages costs 500 USD.
>> 1000 users and 250000 messages costs 500 USD.
>
>> Which affects DNS servers more?
>
>It's not directly about the DNS service since DNS service is
>entirely unpaid on both the server and client sides.  (Please see
>below).  It's more about trying to find some way to measure for
>the rsync service. 
>
>> By the way, do DNS mirrors get paid anything? It's my non-educated
>> impression that most big blacklists consist largely of donated DNS
>servers
>> from big ISPs etc. Respect to those that dare to face DoSes. :)
>
>The DNS mirrors are voluntarily provided and the DNS queries are
>freely used.  Therefore there is no money to or from the free DNS
>service.  It's only the rsync access for large organizations that
>we're asking sponsorship fees for.

The web site has conflicting information regarding "and/or" 1,000
users/250,000 mails.

Does the number of users really matter?

I would suggest simplify it that you require rsync access for 250,000 mails
scanned and leave it at that, then charge whatever you see as appropriate.

If this means more people use MTA techniques to reduce the number of
messages being scanned, then it's to their own and your advantage.

Yesterday, I handled 88,500 messages, but only 3,500 were scanned as the
other 85,000 were stopped by the use of RBL's, greylisting etc.

Peter


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