mouss writes:
> Arvid Ephraim Picciani wrote:
> > On Tuesday 13 May 2008 16:51:50 Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> I've looked at it and I've (probably) missed it (again). Why do you think
> >> that it pretends to look like backscatter, and why do you think it is not?
> >>     
> >
> > backscatter is what happens if mail systems automaticly reply to forged  
> > From: 
> > headers.
> > In this case the mail was never sent over any third party.  It claims to be 
> > bounceback from my own MTA, while in fact it never went through any MTA  
> > (directly sent from dialup).
> > I'm worried that this might be a new form of joe jobbing.  Ie somone sends 
> > out 
> > mails that look like bounceback from your machines.
> 
> Fake NDRs have been discussed few years ago. for example, sophos "spam 
> and the non-delivery report.." dates back to March 2004.

Sophos are just wrong though.  They are assuming that backscatter
is being sent by a spammer, which in almost all cases makes no
sense and is (in my opinion) certainly not the case.

> That said, one possibility is this: Some soho have an MSA on a dsl line. 
> a ratwared box inside (or a web service running on the MSA box) sends 
> mail to an invalid recipient. the MSA gets rejected and then sends you 
> an NDR. the MSA is borked enough to helo with the recipient domain, and 
> generates an incomplet NDR.

I think this may be it; some MTAs will qualify a MAIL FROM:<MAILER-DAEMON>
into an envelope sender address of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.

certainly an odd case, but I don't see any benefit for a spammer to send
that mail.

--j.

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