Per Jessen wrote:
John D. Hardin wrote:

On Mon, 17 Dec 2007, Per Jessen wrote:

Does anyone have a current status for blackholes.us ?  The rsync'ed
data is about 18months old.

I had an email rejected earlier today due to a server
being "blacklisted" by germany.blackholes.us ....
Well, if the MTA is in Germany, the DNSBL isn't the problem.

The server is in Germany - anyway, I can't be bothered to deal with a
mailadmin who rejects based on blackholes.us ... I just curious given
the staleness of the data.

If the server is in Germany, then I don't see how staleness of the data matters.

For one:
(country).blackholes.us is a listing of every known address within a given country (as opposed to it being a list about open proxies, virus infected servers, spam senders, etc.; it's a location based list not an abusive behavior based list). The server is in Germany, therefore they belong on the Germany list.

For two:
The mapping of IP to country doesn't change often. Thus, the data is likely to appear to be "stale" just because it doesn't need to be changed frequently (if at all).


So, while you may feel like you can't be bothered to deal with a mailadmin who rejects mail based on the sender being in Germany, that's kind of what you're left with: if you're trying to fix this, then you have to deal with that mailadmin. Otherwise, you just have to recognize that they don't want email from Germany. Trying to get off of germany.blackholes.us would require moving your server out of Germany, or at least getting it an IP that isn't allocated to Germany.

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