K Anand wrote:
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>> See also:
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>> http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/QmailSpfPatch
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> I'm using qmailtoaster which is netqmail + some patches which include
> a patch for spf (http://www.saout.de/misc/spf/). People are able to
> use spf with qmailtoaster. This implies that  envelope information
> should be available at scan time.
Nope.

Read the saut.de patch. There's no modification to the "received"
fuction which adds Received: headers. That patch handles SPF checks
entirely within Qmail. Because it handles it inside Qmail, it has no
need to add information to the Received: headers.

It is really a misnomer to call the patch from SpamAssassin a SPF patch.
It is not a SPF patch. All it does is add envelope information to your
Received: headers. This is required to let SA's implementation of SPF
work, but it doesn't add anything SPF specific to Qmail.

I can also tell you for sure you don't have anything equivalent to the
SA patch by looking at your message header:

Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.128.1.85?) (10.128.1.85)
 by sail-steel.com with SMTP; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 08:02:15 +0000


I don't see any envelope from clause in there. If you had the SA patch
it would look like this:

Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.128.1.85?) (10.128.1.85)
 by sail-steel.com (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) with SMTP; 
 Fri, 16 Nov 2007 08:02:15 +0000


If you're in doubt, try re-running a message that failed to match the
whitelist through SA after its been delivered. At that point, the
Return-Path should exist, and the whitelist should fire off just fine..



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> Anand
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