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Dan Mahoney, System Admin schrieb:

> Livejournal's purely a mail forwarding service (i.e. there's no way to
> POP/IMAP that account) 

As far as I know, there are mails originating from LJ itself (eg
notifications etc)?

> and if they can't effect proper controls on how
> mail is sent through them, then they shouldn't be trusted at all.
> 
> On my end, I have degrees of control (false MXes, Blacklists,
> whitelists, greylists, sender callbacks, etc).  I have no such control
> over the LJ MX'es.

Correct. But by setting (in your local.cf or equivalent)

| trusted_networks 204.9.177.18

you are telling SpamAssassin that this relay is not operated by a
spammer and that it should apply all black-/whitelist rules etc. to the
IP address one more hop away. Then, in the context of SpamAssassin, you
regain full control of connection-oriented rules.

That's not fully equivalent to having the actual "spamming connection"
to deal with, but as close as it gets -- if you need it "closer", you
should not use forwarding services.

Forwarding services are edge case in spamfiltering. Usually, such a
service is itself perfectly trustworthy and not the actual source of
spam, and care must be taken not to unduly penalize these services for
forwarded spam.

> I've proposed a reporting plugin on the sa-users list, that allows (both
> for yourself, as well as other whitelists) for the list-owner to be
> notified with details of high-spam activity (at which point, I guess,
> you guys could pass that on to your whitelisted groups, and/or adjust
> categories accordingly.

As I've answered before: That's already on the todo list. However, the
main problem is not the plugin per se (technically, that is rather
simple), but identifying trustworthy submitters.

- -- Matthias

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