Brent Kennedy wrote:
 I like the idea.. But based on its current setup, spammers who probably
read this list, will most likely just feed good feedback about their mail
servers through those servers and corrupt the data.  You would need to have
some sort of login and a way to track what was put in the database so if you
determined that one of the users was corrupting the data, you could reverse
what they did.

Plus I don't see any method in there for people who have been blacklisted by
mistake(I know its rare) to get themselves off.

I also think there should be some way to validate a user that's hard to
cheat but not as hard on the host to verify.

Maybe instead of a login, you could give them a hash that they put in their
submission script that is then input into the mysql db.  Just quickly
validate the hash and drop that in the row next to the entry.


-Brent



Anyone can use the lists but I'm only going to allow selected people to feed data into the database and those prople will not include spammers. As to getting off the list, I'm working on that. For now they can email me.

The biggest benefit of this system isn't the black list. It's the white list and yellow list. The white list is what I think is going to be more accurate than the black list. Once a site is whitelisted then you don't have to run it through SA. That saves false positives and processor time. Right now about 1/3 of my incoming good email is whitelisted. With more data it could be 80% or more.

And - the yellow listing reduces false positives in all black lists. Once you see it's yellow listed you skip all blacklist tests. You still have to check it for spam, but it reduces FP on sites who are wrongly blacklisted.

I'm trying to promote a new mindset - not just looking for spam - but also looking for ham. You look for ham, you look for spam - and you run what's left through SA.

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