Theo Van Dinter wrote:
On Thu, Jun 01, 2006 at 01:41:36PM -0400, DAve wrote:
Currently 3.0.4 on the toasters, 3.0.2 on the MailScanner boxes. These
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http://pixelhammer.com/spam/spam1.txt
http://pixelhammer.com/spam/spam2.txt
http://pixelhammer.com/spam/spam3.txt
http://pixelhammer.com/spam/spam4.txt
http://pixelhammer.com/spam/spam5.txt
http://pixelhammer.com/spam/spam6.txt

FWIW, running 3.1.2 w/ sa-update these are caught without issue:

[7363] dbg: check: is spam? score=12.342 required=5
[7363] dbg: check: 
tests=BAYES_99,HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET,RCVD_IN_XBL,SPF_NEUTRAL,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY

[7376] dbg: check: is spam? score=12.093 required=5
[7376] dbg: check: 
tests=BAYES_50,DATE_IN_PAST_48_96,DCC_CHECK,DIGEST_MULTIPLE,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE,FORGED_RCVD_HELO,RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100,RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E4_51_100,RAZOR2_CHECK,RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL,RCVD_IN_XBL

[7381] dbg: check: is spam? score=11.622 required=5
[7381] dbg: check: 
tests=BAYES_99,MISSING_HB_SEP,MISSING_SUBJECT,NORMAL_HTTP_TO_IP,RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET,TO_CC_NONE

[7385] dbg: check: is spam? score=15.448 required=5
[7385] dbg: check: 
tests=BAYES_50,INVESTMENT_ADVICE,MISSING_HB_SEP,MISSING_SUBJECT,RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET,TO_CC_NONE,TVD_ACT_193,TVD_FUZZY_SECURITIES

[7389] dbg: check: is spam? score=12.903 required=5
[7389] dbg: check: 
tests=ADVANCE_FEE_1,ADVANCE_FEE_2,ADVANCE_FEE_3,ADVANCE_FEE_4,BAYES_50,MISSING_HB_SEP,MISSING_SUBJECT,TO_CC_NONE

[7398] dbg: check: is spam? score=7.449 required=5
[7398] dbg: check: 
tests=BAYES_50,MISSING_HB_SEP,MISSING_SUBJECT,TO_CC_NONE,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY,URIBL_BLACK



Theo, I appreciate the results, that means more to me than "upgrade". Results speak louder than anything else. Could you tell me the scores for each test? If you are as busy as I am, I understand if you can not rerun everything. I currently do not run the network tests as I do all my RBL tests in the MTA at connection time. Razor and DCC, well, maybe time to try them again. SpamCop, I won't go there, we have issues with the people at SpamCop. I neither use them nor trust them.

I have both my mailgateways staged for an upgrade of MailScanner and the addition of MailWatch. I have the setup configured for SA 3.1.2 and running sa_update, which I think was a much needed addition to SA. Looks like I should go ahead with the SA upgrade now rather than later.

Bayes, arrgg!! More than once I've been given examples of bayes being the solution I need. I really really really want bayes to work. But each time I set it up, the db gets huge, scan times go through the roof, and I end up disappointed. The one time it worked for me I ended up training by hand a couple hours a week, then an hour a week of my time, then all on my own time. The result was I caught 20,000 spam a day instead of 19,500 spam a day.

Right now I am getting the following results,
Email:  294914  Autolearn:  0  AvgScore:  12.06  AvgScanTime:  4.01 sec
Spam:   192276  Autolearn:  0  AvgScore:  19.92  AvgScanTime:  3.21 sec
Ham:    102638  Autolearn:  0  AvgScore:  -2.66  AvgScanTime:  5.51 sec

Time Spent Running SA:       328.51 hours
Time Spent Processing Spam:  171.35 hours
Time Spent Processing Ham:   157.16 hours

Possibly I need to use SQL bayes and tie my two MailScanner boxes together, running one common bayes for all users. I have a dedicated SQL server for mail and SA, it runs on a private 1gb connection to the mail servers.

Thoughts?

DAve

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