On 2025-06-11 12:37:23 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
> 
> Am 11.06.25 um 12:30 schrieb Vincent Lefevre:
> > On 2025-06-11 11:48:54 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
> > > besides you must have dozens of folders from old versions in
> > > /var/lib/spamassassin/ which should be deleted
> > 
> > Shouldn't sa-update delete them? It is not up to the end user to
> > manually do the cleanup
> as mailadmin you are supposed to not be an "end user" and that begins after
> update SA that you need to run sa-update immediately

In many cases mailadmin = end user. Anyway, it is not up to the
mailadmin to do such cleanup.

> sa-update in the current version don't know anything about old folders which
> are there for purpose if you switch between versions for whatever reason
> 
> there could be a custom folder - should it delete anything it don't know?

So perhaps it is the goal of the maintenance scripts of the
spamassassin Debian package. AFAIK, they know the old version,
so could delete the correct directory.

> the only real question is why is that version folder even there given that
> the rules are always the same
> 
> ----------
> 
> for the sake of god do your homework and disable the queries instead writing
> dozens of mails seeking for hand holding
> 
> # disable because of too low query restrictions
> dns_query_restriction deny sa-trusted.bondedsender.org
> dns_query_restriction deny sa-accredit.habeas.com
> dns_query_restriction deny bl.score.senderscore.com

In the "Ways to reduce calls to Validity BLs" thread, in May,
Greg Troxel said:

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Bill Cole <sausers-20150...@billmail.scconsult.com> writes:
[...]
> In what way it is harmful for those rules to be left in place, given
> that SA disables 'blocked' DNSBL servers when it encounters them.

It spams the score reports for every mail.

It provides advertising for a for-pay BL service.
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and Bill Cole replied:

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Incorrect. Note what SA now does after hitting a BLOCKED rule.
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and then

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The Validity rules have been given zero scores. This is consistent with how we
treat the MAPS DNSBLs.
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Nothing has been said about the need for these dns_query_restriction
lines. It is expected that the zero scores of the Validity rules to
be sufficient.

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