On 2025-05-27 at 09:54:38 UTC-0400 (Tue, 27 May 2025 15:54:38 +0200)
Vincent Lefevre <vinc...@vinc17.net>
is rumored to have said:

On 2025-05-08 09:44:18 -0400, Bill Cole wrote:
That is absolutely true but it is not *for me* a sufficient reason to remove
a longstanding rule. I would need to be convinced that the marginal
improvements in noise and privacy for most users greatly outweighs the risk that removing the rules will quietly break useful local configurations.

That's *NOT* a veto, because there is no formal vote being held. Any
committer COULD remove the Validity rules, although I would hope that would get a broader discussion first. I'm not eager to put my name on that choice, but if the users and other PMC members broadly want Validity gone, I won't
oppose it any further than this explanation.

What's the current status?

The Validity rules have been given zero scores. This is consistent with how we treat the MAPS DNSBLs.


This allows people who have used the checks in meta rules to continue to do so.


FYI, I've just noticed this issue with the Validity rules, though
the RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_*_BLOCKED have appeared since May 2. Note
that this is for a personal server (members of my family also have
e-mail addresses, but for them, mail is redirected by postfix, thus
SpamAssassin is not used).

I looked at what messages had RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL (without _BLOCKED)
in the past. Some of them are spam. But there is also quite a lot of
legitimate mail: all from mailing-lists for my work, except a couple
of messages from some user (sent via RENATER).

So I'm wondering whether they are useful, and if they are, whether
there is a way to use them conditionally (for instance, they are
probably useless for messages from high-volume mailing-lists, which
could also be part of the cause of reaching the limit).

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