"Simon Wilson" <si...@simonandkate.net> writes:

> My results (about 1800 inbound emails across 6 days) show:
>   * combination of postscreen and other upstream tests are catching true 
> baddies enough that the VALIDITY_RPBL does not catch any for me
>   * VALIDITY_SAFE and VALIDITY_CERTIFIED hit on about 5% of total emails (96)

Does anybody find incoming mail that is VALIDITY_SAFE but not
VALIDITY_CERTIFIED?

I used to get such mail, and it was in part spam, I think because SAFE
allowed "single opt in" otherwise known as "list owner just added you
saying you somehow signed up".

But now, I find that if either SAFE or CERTIFIED hits, both do.

  I'd like to ask Andrew to adjust the Validity website to provide an
  easy to find, clear explanation of the semantics of the RBLs.  I went
  to the URL in the config file and just got marketing text.

  I'd like Andrew to explain if there is (still) any point to SAFE and
  CERTIFIED being separate.

  Given the very low query limits, and others comments, it seems like SA
  should drop SAFE and RPBL.

  I'm unclear on SA doctrine for included lists, but the Validity list
  limits seem too low even for single-person personal sites.   Perhaps
  now with blocked codes and a way that queries are disabled for a while
  if blocked, we're ok with that.

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