On 2024-05-09 at 08:37:06 UTC-0400 (Thu, 09 May 2024 14:37:06 +0200)
Benny Pedersen <m...@junc.eu>
is rumored to have said:

Bill Cole skrev den 2024-05-09 14:22:

In fact, I can't think of any whitelist test that should pass if SPF fails.

If you operate on the theory that a SPF failure is always a sign of spam, you can make your SpamAssassin always trust SPF failures absolutely. I would not recommend that. Some people screw up their SPF records. Other people forward mail transparently, which reliably breaks SPF. SPF is broken *by design* as a spam control tool AND as a mail authentication tool. We knew this 20 years ago, but it remains a useful tool if you work with its limits rather than assuming that they do not exist.

spf domain owner asked for hardfails, so why not score spf_fail as 100 ? :)

I believe that has been covered in extreme detail and redundancy here and in other email-related fora MANY times over the past 20 years.

Domain owners do not KNOW all the paths their mail follows, even when they think that they do. Users frequently find ways to break SPF without doing anything wrong.


on the other hans if spf domain owner asked for softfails it would not still be 100

but i still suggest to report to dnswl, if not dnswl none listed

Reasonable advice.



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