On 2022-05-10 20:39, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
On Monday, May 9th, 2022 at 20:35, Alex <mysqlstud...@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm trying to understand why this email from a bank fails DMARC when mxlookup says the DMARC record is just fine.
https://pastebin.com/0T4Gjn3v


* 1.8 DMARC_REJECT DMARC reject policy
* 6.0 KAM_DMARC_REJECT DKIM has Failed or SPF has failed on the message
* and the domain has a DMARC reject policy


It also passes SPF and DKIM

On 2022-05-09 at 17:28:59 UTC-0400 (Mon, 09 May 2022 21:28:59 +0000)
Laurent S. <110ef9e3086d8405c2929e34be5b4...@protonmail.ch>
is rumored to have said:
As far as I understand, for DMARC to be valid, the enveloppe sender address and the header From needs to have the same domain.

On 10.05.22 13:53, Bill Cole wrote:
Not so.

One of SPF (using the domain of the envelope sender) or DKIM (using the domain of the signature) must validate AND the domain used in the validation must match the domain of the author identified by the From header.

correct, however:

From: nore...@ess.firstdata.com
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/simple;
        s=6g5c7kdjkv3qjrxjsdzn3325ejghli53; d=ess.firstdata.com;
        t=1652117979;
        h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type;
        bh=gRPH1y61kVZSDVPNuLr2WQo4Q0dpMd1ELWBGEE4Kp8c=;
        b=MHojQsOqw1AZHyOIUQahSlbOQMMfufMtRltQ/Y3RCuYVO628KuErabQFB38mc82y
        XcsgPG5Xl5Mck5OwlsK3vrS2cmVxfbBlgVRm6yzZehHaJ54Jakjqb5psalWNE5YN2Dw
        h1tHFhykima88hgeOzw/KI8y8VidzkeEI/nHOMkk=
Authentication-Results: mail03.example.com (amavisd-new);
        dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=ess.firstdata.com
        header.b="MHojQsOq"; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=amazonses.com
        header.b="dwNxlXrW"

so the mail looks to be DMARC valid, while SA produces:

* 6.0 KAM_DMARC_REJECT DKIM has Failed or SPF has failed on the message
 *  and the domain has a DMARC reject policy

dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=amazonses.com
        header.b="dwNxlXrW"

this does not pass, why do amazonses add dkim :(

when multiple dkim signers is added all must pass for dmarc pass, i belive this is the kam fails ?

when amazonses drops dkim signing on forwared mails it begins to be stable, what amazonses should do here is to arc seal and arc sign, but this must be done before breaking dkim when forwarding

we still wait for spamassassin 4.0.0

note to pmc members is that dmarc plugin do work with spamassassin 3.4.6, super, i can provide dmarc rule to public so askdns is not used for dmarc rules anymore when dmarc plugin is loaded, i belive pmc members can do this if version ... aswell :)

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