Hi,

> > I have an email that matched KAM_SENDGRID because it also matched
> > SPF_HELO_NONE, despite it apparently being a legitimate sendgrid
> > email. This is from SA trunk.

I only meant it as a reference for the version of SA (and SPF.pm)
that's being used, in case it was necessary.

> > X-Envelope-From:
> >         <bounces+3940809-b10a-43194=hotel.example....@em8909.cookspest.com>
> >
> > I'm noticing what I think are a lot of false positives for this rule.
>
> In what way is this a false positive? Looks like a correct positive to
> me.

Because it was a legitimate email with an invoice from a pest control
company to their customer.

> If you disagree with the scoring or purpose of that rule, you are free
> to reduce the score locally or discuss it with KAM. He's a very

Nope, just trying to understand.

> KAM's
> QA is a 100% black box but he makes changes fast when needed.

Yes, and just wanted to be sure that wasn't necessary here.

> > Perhaps it's because Return-Path is null?
> > Return-Path: <>
>
> That's a different problem, apparently with your MTA->SA glue. The fact
> that something added a non-null "X-Envelope-From:" header and something
> (else?) added a null "Return-Path:" header indicates fundamental
> breakage. Whether SA is seeing that or if it is a delivery artifact is
> unclear.

Perhaps this is a problem with my amavis configuration? It appears all
quarantined messages have a null Return-Path header.

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