On Wed, 23 Sep 2020 13:47:23 -0500
Jerry Malcolm wrote:

> But gmail, outlook, and a bunch of other MTAs won't accept it and
> bounce it back (with no reason attached).  I'm hosting on AWS.  So
> the recommendation was to proxy my outbound mail through AWS's SES
> server so it appeared that the mail came from 'trusted' Amazon.  Now
> I realize that Amazon changes the message id, and I get this 'forged'
> flag.  

Are you sure about that? It would break threading on most traditional
mail clients.

In your list emails you are DKIM signing Message-Id and sending
directly from AWS. If you are doing the same thing with SES, then
obviously that would break DKIM. 

OTOH if you aren't signing Message-Id on the other mail perhaps doing so
would discourage Amazon from overwriting the header.


> Would it be better if I went through the headers on outbound and
> removed headers that referenced Mozilla (or Outlook, or iPhone, or
> ???) in order to make the SES message id change not trigger the rule?

I doubt it would make much difference.  Most spam filtering wont have
that rule. And even in SA it was only 1.6.points.

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