On 8/22/20 4:37 AM, Philip Prindeville wrote:


On Aug 21, 2020, at 1:28 PM, Rob McEwen <r...@invaluement.com> wrote:

ANNOUNCEMENT: The NEW invaluement "Service Provider DNSBLs" - 1st one for 
Sendgrid-spams!

...a collection of a new TYPE of DNSBL, with the FIRST of these having a focus 
on Sendgrid-sent spams. AND - there is a FREE version of this - that can be 
used NOW! (well... might need a SpamAssassin rule or two! Your help 
appreciated!):

INFO AND INSTRUCTIONS HERE:

https://www.invaluement.com/serviceproviderdnsbl/

This provides a way to surgically block Sendgrid's WORST spammers, yet without the 
massive collateral damage that would happen if blocking Sendgrid domains and IP 
addresses. But we're NOT stopping at the phishes and viruses - and we're not finished! 
There will be some well-deserved economic pain, that puts the recipients' best interests 
at heart. Therefore, flagrant "cold email" spamming to recipients who don't 
even know the sender - is also being targeted - first with the absolute worst - and then 
progressing to other offenders as we make adjustments in the coming weeks.



I fail to see the point: that we do the work that sendgrid should be doing, but 
on a duplicative scale?

Why don’t they police themselves?

We’re effectively calling out spam that’s escaped after the fact.  What’s the 
point of that?

They should be scanning email as it leaves their infrastructure and using rules 
and Bayesian filters to know if something is amiss and they need to have human 
intervention.

Nothing is stopping them from doing the right thing.

Why should we enable their bad behavior?


The point is to prevent Phish, Spearphish and other bad stuff, not just "spam"

seems you're sort of late to the party...
Get on board @ Mailop, SDLU, etc lists


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