They will procrastinate until the end of time unless we do something. I tried 
hard, but they are lazy/ignorant/careless. Blacklisting would trigger a problem 
with most of their customers, then they will try to de-list at first, then they 
will comply when de-listing is rejected.

-------- Original Message --------
On 2 Aug 2020, 12:30, Matus UHLAR - fantomas < uh...@fantomas.sk> wrote:
On 02.08.20 05:11, Rupert Gallagher wrote:
>Correction: it is not the mid, it is the helo.
oh... this is something quite different.
But unless multiple servers start implementing reject_unknown_helo_hostname,
such companies ignore to change that...
... apparently with possibly reject_non_fqdn_elo_hostname and
reject_invalid_helo_hostname. and smtpd_helo_required=yes of course
>-------- Original Message --------
>On 1 Aug 2020, 14:58, Rupert Gallagher < r...@protonmail.com> wrote:
>Two well known companies in my country persist in making the mistake of 
>writing their mid with a non-public fqdn, violating the rfc. It has been so 
>for the past three years, with me sending detailed, manually written error 
>messages to their painstakingly collected admin addresses. Their answer is 
>that everybody else accepts their invalid mid, and their servers are 
>enterprise ibm / microsoft shitware that they are unwilling to fix. Since we 
>get a lot of their emails, I decided to scale up their problem. There are many 
>blacklists, and I have no intention to go through each idiosyncratic procedure.
>
>Is there an ombusdman that superintends the major blacklists and enforces rfc 
>compliance through them?
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