On 17 Jun 2019, at 11:06, Reindl Harald <h.rei...@thelounge.net> wrote:
> Am 17.06.19 um 16:30 schrieb @lbutlr:
>> Received: from darth.lan (c-73-14.161.160.hsd1.co.comcast.net 
>> [73.14.161.160])
>>       by mail.covisp.net(Postfix 3.4.5/8.13.0) with SMTP id unknown;
>>       Sun, 16 Jun 2019 15:26:32 -0600
>>       (envelope-from <kr...@kreme.com>)
>> 
>> The first has an ESMTPS id and the other has SMTP id unknown.
> 
> a) ESMTPS is *not* authentication

I didn’t say it was, but the change in the header seems to be triggering 
spamass-milter in ways that it was not being triggered before. 

On 17 Jun 2019, at 02:07, Matus UHLAR - fantomas <uh...@fantomas.sk> wrote:
> if the mail was authenticated, it should contain ESMTPA or ESMTPSA instead
> of SMTP.
> 
> Note that spamass-milter fakes the first Received: header (because milter
> must get message as it is received from mail client), but lack of "A" in the
> SMTP indicates that your mail is not really authenticated.

The message WAS sent via an authenticated connection:

Jun 16 15:26:32 mail postfix/submit/smtpd[52711]: 45RnTh0J8KzdrvJ: 
client=c-73-14-161-160.hsd1.co.comcast.net[73.14.161.160], sasl_method=PLAIN, 
sasl_username=kr...@kreme.com
Jun 16 15:26:32 mail postfix/cleanup[52845]: 45RnTh0J8KzdrvJ: 
message-id=<0c3be5f6-c5b4-4b07-853d-fad6dcbb6...@kreme.com>
Jun 16 15:26:33 mail postfix/qmgr[27634]: 45RnTh0J8KzdrvJ: 
from=<kr...@kreme.com>, size=3259, nrcpt=2 (queue active)
Jun 16 15:26:33 mail postfix/lmtp[53026]: 45RnTh0J8KzdrvJ: to=<mumble>, 
orig_to=<mumble>, relay=mail.covisp.net[private/dovecot-lmtp], delay=1.9, 
delays=1.7/0.01/0.19/0.01, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 <mumble> 
1QOYNQm0Bl1fzwAAIdGjjQ:2 Saved)
Jun 16 15:26:33 mail postfix/qmgr[27634]: 45RnTh0J8KzdrvJ: removed


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