> On Oct 2, 2018, at 13:49, Bill Cole <sausers-20150...@billmail.scconsult.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> On 2 Oct 2018, at 13:39, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
> 
>>> On 2 Oct 2018, at 9:36, Rob McEwen wrote:
>>>> SIDE NOTE: I don't think there was any domain my message that was 
>>>> blacklisted on URIBL - so I can't explain the "URIBL_BLOCKED", but that 
>>>> only scored 0.001, so that was innocuous. I suspect that that rule is 
>>>> malfunctioning on their end, and then they changed the score to .001 - so 
>>>> just please ignore that for the purpose of this discussion.
>> 
>> On 02.10.18 11:48, Bill Cole wrote:
>>> No, "URIBL_BLOCKED" means that the URIBL DNS returned a value that is 
>>> supposed to be a message to a mail admin that they are using URIBL wrong
>> 
>>> A mail filtering system that gets URIBL_BLOCKED hits is broken. A mail 
>>> filtering system that gets them chronically is mismanaged.
>> 
>> Nonsense. There is no such implication here. While URIBL_BLOCKED may and
>> most of the time apparently does mean that system uses DNS server shared
>> with too many clients, any system that receives and checks too much mail may
>> get URIBL_BLOCKED just because they have crossed the limit, withous using it
>> wrong or being broken.
> 
> Operating a system in a manner which chronically crosses that limit is 
> abusive.
> 
> The DNS reply that results in URIBL_BLOCKED is not "free" for the URIBL 
> operators and depending on their software may be as expensive as sending a 
> real reply. It has the advantage over simply dropping abusive queries that it 
> does not impose timeout delays on abusive queriers and sends a clear signal 
> that can and should be acted upon.


The DNSBL operator can also choose to use a frontend firewall/router/etc system 
to redirect the queries to a dedicated server which can reduce the packet per 
second rate that the authoritative DNS servers need to cope with.

Abusive queries can almost definitely be handled much faster by a 
small/dedicated server that does nothing but return one single wild carded 
response, reducing the impact that abusive users can have on the primary 
infrastructure.


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