> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 5:14 PM
> To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
> Subject: Re: RBL Misfires?
> 
> 
> It would be useful if you could forward the messages that falsely
> trigger on RBLs, along with name resolution results on the specific
> RBL nearby in time, such as:
> 
> > % dig vantagemobility.com.ws.surbl.org

The message is attached.
I ran that exact query against my DNS server, and both my ISPs servers at the 
time it happened.  Got basically this (nadda):

; <<>> DiG 9.2.1 <<>> vantagemobility.com.ws.surbl.org
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 62432
;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;vantagemobility.com.ws.surbl.org. IN   A

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
ws.surbl.org.           900     IN      SOA     a.surbl.org. zone.surbl.org. 
1097682081 900 450 604800 900

;; Query time: 247 msec
;; SERVER: 10.10.3.2#53(10.10.3.2)
;; WHEN: Wed Oct 13 09:17:27 2004
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 93

> (and similar lookups on numeric RBLs like
> dig 2.0.0.127.sbl.spamhaus.org)

; <<>> DiG 9.2.1 <<>> 2.0.0.127.sbl.spamhaus.org
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 48647
;; flags: qr aa; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 13, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;2.0.0.127.sbl.spamhaus.org.    IN      A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
2.0.0.127.sbl.spamhaus.org. 7200 IN     A       127.0.0.2

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
sbl.spamhaus.org.       172800  IN      NS      n.ns.spamhaus.org.
sbl.spamhaus.org.       172800  IN      NS      r.ns.spamhaus.org.
sbl.spamhaus.org.       172800  IN      NS      s.ns.spamhaus.org.
sbl.spamhaus.org.       172800  IN      NS      u.ns.spamhaus.org.
sbl.spamhaus.org.       172800  IN      NS      v.ns.spamhaus.org.
sbl.spamhaus.org.       172800  IN      NS      z.ns.spamhaus.org.
sbl.spamhaus.org.       172800  IN      NS      a.ns.spamhaus.org.
sbl.spamhaus.org.       172800  IN      NS      b.ns.spamhaus.org.
sbl.spamhaus.org.       172800  IN      NS      c.ns.spamhaus.org.
sbl.spamhaus.org.       172800  IN      NS      d.ns.spamhaus.org.
sbl.spamhaus.org.       172800  IN      NS      e.ns.spamhaus.org.
sbl.spamhaus.org.       172800  IN      NS      f.ns.spamhaus.org.
sbl.spamhaus.org.       172800  IN      NS      m.ns.spamhaus.org.

;; Query time: 409 msec
;; SERVER: 10.10.3.2#53(10.10.3.2)
;; WHEN: Wed Oct 13 09:25:29 2004
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 271

> 
> There have been other sporadic reports of RBL misfires, which
> leads me to wonder about the possibility of a rarely hit bug
> somewhere in the RBL code.  Unfortunately this kind of thing
> seems hard to debug given the dynamic nature of messages and
> RBLs, but there are enough reports to make me wonder....
> 

Yeah... I know.  I'm not even sure if I have a problem or not.  I just recently 
turned on the report header for all mail, so that I could at least get a little 
more information without getting lost in constant debug output.  I'm keeping an 
eye on it for now.

The system, btw, is Red Hat 7.3, Sendmail 8.12.11, Spamass-Milter 0.2.0, SA 3.0 
(but I also noticed questionable RBL hits with 2.64), and Net::DNS 0.46.

The SA system is configured to use our internal DNS server, which has the 
typical default settings, afaik.
I do see cached entries for the RBLs in my DNS system, but when I actually 
catch what I believe to be a misfire on an RBL check, I don't see a cache 
record for it in my DNS.

One other thing that may be worth mentioning is that all messages come into 
sendmail from localhost.  MessageWall listens on the wire as a proxy.  The only 
obvious issue I saw with this is that SPF doesn't work.

> Jeff C.
> -- 
> Jeff Chan
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.surbl.org/
> 
> 
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Hi Ericka-

 

I need the lift on this Order Number changed to a UL2806-2P01000. This order is 
on Will Call. 

 

Thanks a bunch.

 

Karl Wein

National Sales Coordinator

VMI

5202 South 28th Place

Phoenix, AZ  85040

800.348.8267 x5848

602.243.9843 fax

www.vantagemobility.com

 



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