This is interesting, can you give us a feel for the size/structure of the
index (# of documents, size of index, # of shards)?

On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 7:52 AM Dominic Humphries <domi...@adzuna.com.invalid>
wrote:

> An update, I found the part of the query that's making everything so slow:
> the q param
>
> When we have
>       "q":"(carroll_county OR Aldi OR Cashier OR Kohls) AND NOT (internship
> OR intern OR graduate)",
> the search is very slow, taking 20-something seconds
>
> When it's just
>       "q":"(carroll_county OR Aldi OR Cashier OR Kohls)",
> the search is blazing fast, coming back in under a second. So it appears
> it's something triggered by the NOT that's both taking all the time, and
> not getting caught by the timeAllowed limit
>
> Full query below:
>
> select?f.contract_type.facet.limit=2&fl=*&f.company_id.facet.mincount=1&qt=edismax&f.contract_time.facet.missing=false&f.location_struct.facet.limit=50&facet.date.end=NOW%2FDAY%2B1DAYS&ps=2&f.description.hl.snippets=2&stats.field=salary_avg_stats&facet.date.gap=%2B1DAY&pf=title&stats=true&_qtags=api_id%3Ab02dbf6d~784741%7CFCGI%3A%3AModel%3A%3AWWW%3A%3AJobsBase%3A%3ASearch%7C2781%7CCHOMkO6R7xGwlQ6bKp_SoQ&qs=5&f.contract_time.facet.limit=2&f.contract_time.facet.mincount=1&f.company_id.facet.missing=false&facet.date=%7B!key%3Dfreshness%7Dcreated&bq=(reply_on_adzuna%3Atrue%5E0.5)&f.contract_type.facet.mincount=1&wt=json&f.location_struct.facet.mincount=1&facet.date.hardend=true&f.category_id.facet.limit=50&timeAllowed=4900&f.contract_type.facet.missing=false&f.category_id.facet.mincount=1&sort=score+desc&q.alt=*%3A*&boost=boost_factor&f.company_id.facet.limit=50&facet.date.start=NOW%2FDAY-7DAYS&facet=false&facet.field=%7B!key%3Dlocation%3Aid%7Dlocation_struct&facet.field=%7B!key%3Dcategory%3Aid%7Dcategory_id&facet.field=contract_type&facet.field=contract_time&facet.field=%7B!key%3Dcompany%3Aid%7Dcompany_id&f.description.hl.fragsize=180&hl=false&rows=20&start=0&q=(carroll_county+OR+Aldi+OR+Cashier+OR+Kohls)+AND+NOT+(internship+OR+intern+OR+graduate)&fq=location_id%3A151946&fq=boosted%3A1&fq=%7B!cost%3D200%7Dsearch_category%3A0&fq=created%3A%5BNOW%2FDAY-14DAYS+TO+*%5D
>
> On Wed, 6 Nov 2024 at 17:00, Dominic Humphries <domi...@adzuna.com> wrote:
>
> > I spoke too soon, I figured out how to get VisualVM talking to solr. Now
> > I'm just not sure what to do with it - what sorts of things am I looking
> > for?
> >
> > On Wed, 6 Nov 2024 at 16:40, Dominic Humphries <domi...@adzuna.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Unfortunately I don't know Java anywhere near well enough to know my way
> >> around a profiler or jstack. I've confirmed JMX is enabled and I can
> telnet
> >> to the port, but VisualVM fails to connect and gives me no reason as to
> >> why.
> >>
> >> I can post the query and result if that's useful - it doesn't return any
> >> records so there's nothing to censor
> >>
> >> On Wed, 6 Nov 2024 at 15:36, Gus Heck <gus.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> If you have access to a test instance where the problem can be
> >>> reproduced,
> >>> attaching a profiler would be one way. Another cruder method is to use
> >>> jstack to dump all the threads.
> >>>
> >>> Another way to tackle this is to help us reproduce your problem. Can
> you
> >>> share details about your query? Obviously, please don't post anything
> >>> your
> >>> company wouldn't want public, but if you can share some details that
> >>> would
> >>> be a start.
> >>>
> >>> The ideal thing would be to provide a minimum working example of the
> >>> problem you are experiencing.
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Nov 6, 2024 at 9:55 AM Dominic Humphries
> >>> <domi...@adzuna.com.invalid>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > I've tried both timeAllowed and cpuAllowed and neither are
> restricting
> >>> the
> >>> > amount of time the queries take to run. I have a test query that's
> >>> reliably
> >>> > taking 20-30 seconds, if there's any useful debug params or such I
> can
> >>> run
> >>> > to provide the information you want I'm happy to run them - I'm not
> >>> sure
> >>> > how to usefully interrogate solr for where its time is being spent,
> >>> sorry
> >>> >
> >>> > Thanks
> >>> >
> >>> > On Wed, 6 Nov 2024 at 14:25, Gus Heck <gus.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > > There are unit tests that seem to suggest that timeAllowed still
> >>> works,
> >>> > can
> >>> > > you provide some more information about your use case? Particularly
> >>> > > important is any information about where (what code) your queries
> are
> >>> > > spending a lot of time in if you have it.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > On Wed, Nov 6, 2024 at 6:18 AM Dominic Humphries
> >>> > > <domi...@adzuna.com.invalid>
> >>> > > wrote:
> >>> > >
> >>> > > > Hi folks,
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > we're testing Solr 9.7 to upgrade our existing 8.11 stack. We're
> >>> > seeing a
> >>> > > > problem with long requests: we send `timeAllowed=4900` which
> works
> >>> fine
> >>> > > on
> >>> > > > the existing 8.11 and keeps requests to just a few seconds.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > With 9.7, however, the flag is basically ignored - requests can
> >>> take
> >>> > over
> >>> > > > 30 seconds whether the flag is present or not, which is causing
> >>> higher
> >>> > > CPU
> >>> > > > load and slowing response times.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > I've tried setting the flag suggested in
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > >
> >>> >
> >>>
> https://solr.apache.org/guide/solr/latest/upgrade-notes/major-changes-in-solr-9.html#use-of-timeallowed
> >>> > > > - but even with solr.useExitableDirectoryReader set we still
> don't
> >>> get
> >>> > > the
> >>> > > > desired behaviour.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > Is there anything else I can try to get the old behaviour back?
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > Thanks
> >>> > > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > > --
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> >>> > >
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
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> >>>
> >>
>


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