Hi,

That might indeed be an alternative solution, but I prefer the current
solution as I can have multiple matches per parent document because I’m
actually matching children. If for example 3 child docs of the same parent
match the query, I wan’t to know all these matches so searching for
children is really what I want. The solutions for faceting and filtering at
the parent domain work perfect. And grouping child docs with a field from
their parents seems not to be possible, but I fix that by adding this field
to the child docs as well (even if I’m duplicating a small amount of
information).

Thanks again for the help!


frederic


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El dv, 26 gen. 2024 a les 20:56 Mikhail Khludnev <m...@apache.org> va
escriure:

> Hi, I don't fully follow, but I remember that there's a function for
> sorting parents by matching children
>
> https://solr.apache.org/guide/solr/latest/query-guide/function-queries.html#childfieldfield-function
> unfortunately its' vice versa stuck in implementation
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-10701
> Can you confirm that sort=parentfield() will suite for your problem?
>
> On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 4:01 PM Frederic Font Corbera <
> frederic.f...@upf.edu>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Thanks for your suggestion. I already tried that, but unfortunately it is
> > not what I need because it will not sort results according the the child
> > score (which I need), and also it would return only one parent even if
> > several of its children would match.
> >
> > My current solution using the domain property of the JSON facets mode and
> > duplication the grouping fields in child documents works perfectly.
> >
> > Thanks a lot for your help!
> >
> >
> > frederic
> >
> >
> > --
> > Frederic Font - ffont.github.io
> > Music Technology Group, UPF - mtg.upf.edu <https://www.upf.edu/web/mtg/>
> > Freesound - freesound.org
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 at 19:31, Mikhail Khludnev <m...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Probably you are talking about searching parents and then roll over
> > parents
> > > to children via
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://solr.apache.org/guide/solr/latest/query-guide/document-transformers.html#child-childdoctransformerfactory
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 7:16 PM Frederic Font Corbera <
> > > frederic.f...@upf.edu>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Mikhail,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks a lot for your quick response! I did not know about that and
> > this
> > > > seems to be exactly what I was looking for. I did some quick tests
> with
> > > the
> > > > JSON facets API (previously I was using the non-JSON faceting method)
> > and
> > > > it allows me to query child document but facet by parents, just as
> you
> > > > described. This is perfect for me.
> > > >
> > > > There is one extra issue that I did not mention in my previous email
> > > which
> > > > is, similar to the faceting problem which is now solved, I have a
> > > grouping
> > > > problem because I'd like to group child document by a field of the
> > > parent.
> > > > Again I could fix that by indexing the parent fields with the child
> > (and
> > > > because I only need one field it would not be too bad in this case).
> > But
> > > > maybe there is a similar solution to that of the facets? I searched
> the
> > > > docs but could not find it.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks a lot!!!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > frederic
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Frederic Font - ffont.github.io
> > > > Music Technology Group, UPF - mtg.upf.edu <
> > https://www.upf.edu/web/mtg/>
> > > > Freesound - freesound.org
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 at 13:02, Mikhail Khludnev <m...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hello Federic,
> > > > > It sounds like blockParent domain change see.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://solr.apache.org/guide/solr/latest/query-guide/json-faceting-domain-changes.html#block-join-domain-changes
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 12:15 PM Frederic Font Corbera <
> > > > > frederic.f...@upf.edu> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi everyone,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm one of the developers behind the Freesound website (
> > > > > > https://freesound.org, a sound sharing website), we use Solr as
> > our
> > > > > search
> > > > > > engine and I'm currently experimenting with a new feature that
> I'd
> > > like
> > > > > to
> > > > > > implement using Solr. In summary, we have a Solr index with one
> > > > document
> > > > > > per sound in our database and we do standard search operations
> > there.
> > > > > > However, I'd like to add child documents to each of the main
> > > documents
> > > > > > which include specific information about the sounds at different
> > > points
> > > > > in
> > > > > > time. For example, I have a main document with basic properties
> > like
> > > > > sound
> > > > > > title and tags, but then have N child documents that have a
> > timestamp
> > > > > field
> > > > > > and some extra information  associated with that time stamp. Here
> > is
> > > > > > simplified example of a document that could be indexed (normally
> my
> > > > child
> > > > > > documents would include also dense vector fields):
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [
> > > > > >   {
> > > > > >     "ID": "1",
> > > > > >     "title": "Recording of a street ambience",
> > > > > >     "tags": ['urban', 'ambience', 'dogs', 'birds'],
> > > > > >     "duration": 1:21,
> > > > > >     "events": [{
> > > > > >         "ID": "1/events#0",
> > > > > >         "timestamp": 0:23,
> > > > > >         "event_description": "Dog barking"
> > > > > >       },{
> > > > > >         "ID": "1/events#1",
> > > > > >         "timestamp": 0:47,
> > > > > >         "event_description": "Bird calls"
> > > > > >       },{
> > > > > >         "ID": "1/events#2",
> > > > > >         "timestamp": 1:05,
> > > > > >         "event_description": "Dog barking"
> > > > > >       },
> > > > > >       ...
> > > > > >     ]
> > > > > >   },
> > > > > >   ...
> > > > > > ]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What I want to achieve is to do a query that matches child
> > documents
> > > > and
> > > > > > sorts them according to some score, but I want to do faceting
> based
> > > on
> > > > > > parent document fields. For example, I want to get all documents
> in
> > > > > which a
> > > > > > "Dog barking" event happens (and if a document has 2 such events
> > like
> > > > in
> > > > > > the example, I want the document returned 2 times), I want them
> > > sorted
> > > > by
> > > > > > the score of the child document, but I want to include faceting
> > data
> > > > for,
> > > > > > e.g. the "duration" field (which refers to the parent document).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > One solution would be to duplicate all the parent document fields
> > in
> > > > > every
> > > > > > child document at index time. This would work, but then I would
> > get a
> > > > lot
> > > > > > of redundant information in the index.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What I think would work best would be a way to extend the child
> > > > document
> > > > > > fields and include the fields of the parent at "query time". So
> I'd
> > > > like
> > > > > to
> > > > > > specify the field list with something like
> > > > > > "fl=timestamp,event_description,__parent__.duration". Is that
> > > possible?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I tried other approaches that might work like the parent query
> > parser
> > > > > which
> > > > > > will return parent documents whose child documents match some
> > > criteria,
> > > > > but
> > > > > > this has the problems of not telling me which of the child
> > documents
> > > > > > matched the query, and also it will not sort them as expected
> > because
> > > > the
> > > > > > score is not propagated to the parent document.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That is all, thanks a lot for the support!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > frederic
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Frederic Font - ffont.github.io
> > > > > > Music Technology Group, UPF - mtg.upf.edu <
> > > > https://www.upf.edu/web/mtg/>
> > > > > > Freesound - freesound.org
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Sincerely yours
> > > > > Mikhail Khludnev
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Sincerely yours
> > > Mikhail Khludnev
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
> Sincerely yours
> Mikhail Khludnev
>

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