Hi Luke,

We built Luwak, the basis of Solcolator, at my previous company Flax, and donated it to Lucene. I've sent you a separate private email. I don't know who built Solcolator sadly, it would indeed be awesome to get this feature properly integrated into Solr.

Best

Charlie

On 13/12/2023 15:53, Luke Kot-Zaniewski (BLOOMBERG/ 919 3RD A) wrote:
Hi All,

My team and I are trying to match documents against a set of queries. Both need 
to be updated in real-time (at least on the order of seconds) and the system 
needs to scale to potentially millions of queries. Although lucene monitor 
greatly optimizes this kind of alerting logic, as far as we know, it won't 
handle scaling as it isn't wrapped by a sophisticated runtime.

Reading through this thread https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@find_parent=true 
pointed me at https://github.com/SOLR4189/solcolator. Overall, this project looks 
promising but I'm concerned that it was contributed by an anonymous user and is lacking 
basic maintenance, at the very least it needs dependency upgrades. My second concern with 
it is that it ingests _documents_ via AddUpdateCommand and then writes the output to a 
configurable sink. In my team's use case, it would be better to invert the flow and 
process documents in the SearchHandler (so that the output can be written to 
SolrQueryResponse) and AddUpdate the queries to take better advantage of solr's sharding. 
The second concern is not as strong as the first as I am still thinking about how to 
implement the "solcolator" within our constraints. Perhaps the 
document-as-query approach has its own drawbacks that I am not seeing.

In either case I have two questions:

1. Has anyone here used solcolator and with what effect? I would be grateful to 
learn specifics about the scale of your solution.
2. What do you think about forking or riffing off this project and adding a 
document-as-query control flow?

As it stands now we are designing a system that coordinates lucene monitor by 
directly interacting with zookeeper and it feels like we are reinventing some 
of solr's capabilities. Any feedback anyone might have would be greatly 
appreciated.

Many thanks,
Luke

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