David, you made a point. Is it true we can keep indexes to S3? I mean index
under use not the backup ?

On Fri, Feb 24, 2023 at 1:11 AM David Smiley <dsmi...@apache.org> wrote:

> I agree with Eric, but wish to add one point:  Separation of compute from
> storage to get: better redundancy (HDFS or S3 will do it better, maybe
> cheaper), better elasticity (since Solr nodes become stateless; easy to add
> more nodes), better cost?  Sacrifice indexing performance and a bit of
> query.  Admittedly I don't have real experience here but this is my
> thinking.  The most annoying thing about Solr's HDFS support is that
> SolrCloud's replication is quite redundant/wasteful with that at the
> storage layer, thus adding cost inefficiency. There is potential for
> improvements there.
>
> ~ David Smiley
> Apache Lucene/Solr Search Developer
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 23, 2023 at 7:45 AM Eric Pugh <ep...@opensourceconnections.com
> >
> wrote:
>
> > I am replying, but just to the users mailing list, as it’s not
> appropriate
> > for dev@.
> >
> > I think the short answer is that if you are already super into the Hadoop
> > ecosystem, then you already have strong reasons why, and you can answer
> all
> > of your questions listed already ;-).  You then look at Solr on Hadoop as
> > “hey, it works with what I am already doing” at my enterprise.
> >
> > If you aren’t already in the Hadoop ecosystem, then there isn’t any
> > special Solr specific reason to go this way, and indeed many reasons NOT
> > to.   Hadoop isn’t for the faint of heart….
> >
> > Not an answer per se….
> >
> > > On Feb 23, 2023, at 5:57 AM, Zara Parst <edotserv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I read at many places about using Hadoop in solrCloud. I try to find
> the
> > > reason why to use Hadoop in place of a local file system. Can someone
> > > briefly explain why to use Hadoop with SolrCloud when solr is just
> using
> > > Hadoop for indexing and storing logs in Hadoop. Is there any compelling
> > > reason to do that?
> > >
> > > Is Hadoop having any advantage over the local file system with solr,
> > since
> > > I can achieve cloud mod storing index in the local file system and can
> > > still use shard and replica.  So my question is what advantage Hadoop
> > will
> > > give me, does Hadoop do indexing fast, does Hadoop take less space to
> > store
> > > index, is that distributed file system is better in Hadoop, like
> > sharding,
> > > replication etc. Or does it take backup automatically?
> > >
> > > Please do answer this question as much as possible,
> >
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