Hi Charlie,

Gah, thanks for informing me of that, here is a link to the images is here
<https://imgur.com/a/yEmBGuv>

Cheers,


On Tue, 29 Nov 2022 at 13:23, Charlie Hull <ch...@opensourceconnections.com>
wrote:

> Hey Richard,
>
> Attachments are stripped by this list so you might want to upload them
> somewhere and link to them.
>
> Cheers
>
> Charlie
>
> On 25/11/2022 17:33, Richard Goodman wrote:
> > Hi there,
> >
> > We have a cluster spread over 72 instances on k8s hosting around 12.5
> > billion documents (made up of 30 collections, each collection having 12
> > shards). We were originally using 7.7.2 and performance was okay enough
> for
> > us for our business needs. We then recently upgraded our cluster to
> > v8.11.2, and have noticed a drop in performance. I appreciate that there
> > have been a lot of changes from 7.7.2 to 8.11.2, but I have been
> collecting
> > metrics, and although the configuration (instance type and resource
> > allocation, start up opts) are the same, we are completely at a loss as
> to
> > why it's performing worse, and was wondering if anyone had any guidance?
> >
> > I recently stumbled across the tickets;
> >
> >     - SOLR-15840<https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-15840>  -
> >     Performance degradation with http2
> >     - SOLR-16099<https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-16099>  -
> HTTP
> >     Client threads can hang
> >
> > In particular which sparked interest, and so we spun up a parallel
> cluster
> > with -Dsolr.http1=true, and there was no difference in performance. We're
> > testing a couple of other ideas, such as different DirectoryFatory *(as I
> > saw a message from someone in the Solr Slack about there being an issue
> > with the MMap directory and vm.max_map_count)*, some GC settings, but are
> > really open to any suggestions. We're also happy if it'll help with any
> > performance related topics to use this cluster to test patches at a large
> > scale to see if it'll help with performance *(more specifically to the
> two
> > Solr tickets listed above)*.
> >
> > I thought it would be useful to show some metrics I collected where we
> had
> > 2 clusters spun up, 1 being 7.7.2 and 1 being 8.11.2 where the 8.11.2
> > cluster was the active, and all traffic was being shadow loaded into the
> > 7.7.2 cluster to compare against. It's important to note that both
> clusters
> > had the same configuration, here is a list to name a few:
> >
> >     - G1GC garbage collector
> >     - TLOG replication
> >     - 27Gi Memory per instance
> >     - 16Gi assigned to -XmX and -Xms
> >     - 16 cores
> >     - -XX:G1HeapRegionSize=4m
> >     - -XX:G1ReservePercent=20
> >     - -XX:InitiatingHeapOccupancyPercent=35
> >
> > One metric that did stand out, was that 8.11.2 was churning through *a
> lot* of
> > eden space in the heap, which can be seen in some of the screenshots of
> > metrics below;
> >
> > Total Memory Usage:
> > 7.7.2
> >
> >
> > 8.11.2
> >
> >
> > Total Used G1 Pools
> > 7.7.2
> >
> >
> > 8.11.2
> >
> >
> > And finally, the overall thread pool
> > 7.7.2
> >
> >
> > 8.11.2
> >
> >
> > Any guidance or requests to test for performance wise would be
> appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Richard
> >
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