Hi Folks,

I'm happy to say that Wei's patch has been merged to mainline and 8_x (for
8.10) by Timothy Potter. Thank you both!

My next curiosity is of course when Solr 8.10 will be available :)

I read online of course that "no releases are scheduled in advance", but as
I am quite looking forward to this change I am hoping someone can let me
know any information you can share.

Thanks!
Stephen

On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 9:19 AM Stephen Lewis Bianamara <
stephen.bianam...@gmail.com> wrote:

> This is all great info. Thanks for the patch Wei! It looks reasonable to
> me and it's exciting to hear about your results. I agree that your patch +
> tlog looks like a good solution at a design level.
>
> Now onto the question of the problem to solve. Bram and Wei cover it
> well. The goal at a high level is to better divide the work, as well as
> decouple operational factors, between read and write replicas.
>
> Right now, I'm interested in an architecture with a shared collections
> with 3 replicas per shard, where any one of them may become the leader as
> fault tolerance, which I believe tlog plus Wei's patch fits perfectly.
> This also doesn't work with Dave's suggestion, though it could be useful
> for slightly different setups.
>
> What are the next steps on integrating Wei's patch into main-line for
> official release?
>
> Best,
> Stephen
>
> On Sun, Jun 13, 2021, 4:46 PM Wei <weiwan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> We did some explorations on excluding reads from the leader in a TLOG +
>> PULL cloud. When updates are heavy we do observer query throughput and
>> latency improvement.  Added the patch we have bee testing
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/13026792/SOLR-15472.patch
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 11:43 AM Bram Van Dam <bram.van...@intix.eu>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > On 11/06/2021 00.28, Walter Underwood wrote:
>> > > Are you trying to send queries to less loaded machines? If so, this
>> > won’t do that.
>> > > Leaders only do a little bit more work than followers. All indexing
>> > processing is local
>> > > and that is most of the CPU usage.
>> >
>> > I suspect that depends on the type of replica.
>> >
>> > Reducing the load on leaders seems like a valuable feature. We've
>> > observed cases where a high query load on leaders caused it to become
>> > unresponsive, resulting in a cascade of failures, eventually rendering
>> > an entire cluster unusable.
>> >
>> > In fact, it would also be useful to be able to direct certain queries
>> > *only* to leaders when you know that replicas are lagging behind.
>> >
>> >   - Bram
>> >
>>
>

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