That sounds like the experience of someone who is buying actual memory once and 
installing it once. If you're paying for more memory *every month* like you do 
at AWS, the cost metrics can be very different.

--Jamie

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From: Dave <hastings.recurs...@gmail.com> 
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Subject: Re: SolrException : java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space

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Ah gotcha. Well you can just keep upping it gig by gig until it doesn’t happen 
anymore, but the man hours/salary spent trying to track down the issue very 
quickly out cost the money for the memory

> On Jun 25, 2021, at 1:08 PM, Dominique Bejean <dominique.bej...@eolya.fr> 
> wrote:
>
> Hum, maybe it is an acceptable way of setting the JVM heap if you 
> really have a lot of memory and you are using G1 GC.
> But sorry, my customers don't agree with "disk and memory are cheap" 
> :) Furthermore, if you can save some money on each of your servers, 
> maybe you can rent one more server and so increase available CPU, disk 
> space and disk I/0.
>
> Dominique
>
>
>
>> Le ven. 25 juin 2021 à 18:56, Dave <hastings.recurs...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>
>> Because memory is cheap, I’m assuming the server has plenty more after,
>> and more the better for the jvm in my experience.   It’s just a default
>> value I go for when this occurs, and then never after and no oom 
>> error ever again
>>
>>> On Jun 25, 2021, at 12:47 PM, Dominique Bejean <
>> dominique.bej...@eolya.fr> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Dave,
>>>
>>> I agree with not allocating more than 31 GB for Xms/Xmx as it is the
>> upper
>>> limit in order for the JVM to use compressed oops (
>>>
>> https://blog.codecentric.de/en/2014/02/35gb-heap-less-32gb-java-jvm-m
>> emory-oddities/
>> ),
>>> but why directly 31 Gb without more Solr usage analysis ?
>>>
>>> Dominique
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Le ven. 25 juin 2021 à 16:25, Dave <hastings.recurs...@gmail.com> a
>> écrit :
>>>>
>>>> Another thing I would keep in mind is running your xms and xmx at 
>>>> the
>> same
>>>> memory size.  Ideally the machine it’s on has a lot of memory, so 
>>>> if
>> both
>>>> are set to 31gb, and the os still has enough memory to read your 
>>>> index,
>> is
>>>> nearly ideal.
>>>>
>>>>>> On Jun 25, 2021, at 8:36 AM, Rafał Kuć <r....@solr.pl> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Paul,
>>>>>
>>>>> The error that you are seeing tells you that your Solr instance 
>>>>> didn't
>>>> have enough memory to run certain operation - for example indexing 
>>>> or querying. Have a look at this page of the documentation:
>>>>
>> https://solr.apache.org/guide/6_6/jvm-settings.html#JVMSettings-Choos
>> ingMemoryHeapSettings
>>>> <
>>>>
>> https://solr.apache.org/guide/6_6/jvm-settings.html#JVMSettings-Choos
>> ingMemoryHeapSettings
>>>
>>>> - though it is for version 6.6 it is valuable for Solr 5.2.1 as well.
>> You
>>>> may just not have enough memory given to the JVM. I would start 
>>>> with
>> that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Check your Solr logs to find out the problematic part and when it
>>>> happens. If that happens during the query time you will usually 
>>>> find
>> longer
>>>> than usual running queries. That's a good place to start.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Rafał Kuć
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 25 Jun 2021, at 10:52, Paul, Lulu <lulu.p...@bl.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi team,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We are running SOLR 5.2.1 version and this is the error we 
>>>>>> receive on
>>>> our LIVE instance. I am relatively new to the project and still 
>>>> learning about SOLR.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> org.apache.solr.common.SolrException; null:java.lang.RuntimeException:
>>>> java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please can you suggest what should be checked and a possible
>> resolution
>>>> to this problem ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Below is the into from SOLR UI Dashboard on system space  :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Much appreciate your advice
>>>>>> Thank you, best wishes Lulu
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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