Thanks, Alessandro, I will wait for your investigation and let you know if I find anything else in the meantime. About the trie fields, yes, we are about to replace them with the point fields, hopefully in the next reindexing we run.
Cheers, Mónica On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 at 10:30, Alessandro Benedetti <a.benede...@sease.io> wrote: > Hi Monica, > I think the trie fields are deprecated in favor of the point fields. > > In regards to multi valued date sorting without docValues, the overall pull > request is the following: > https://github.com/apache/lucene-solr/commit/e2bba98/ > I should investigate more but from a quick look , for dates we expect > exceptions in the tests, so *it seems* you are getting the supposed > behavior. > Didn't have time to fully investigate it and understand it, so I may be > wrong. > > Cheers > -------------------------- > Alessandro Benedetti > Apache Lucene/Solr Committer > Director, R&D Software Engineer, Search Consultant > > www.sease.io > > > On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 at 09:22, Mónica Marrero <monica.marr...@europeana.eu> > wrote: > > > Thank you! Yes, that is the quote, and here is the link to the > > documentation where it is: > > > > > https://solr.apache.org/guide/7_7/common-query-parameters.html#sort-parameter > > > > I have also tested with date types (also multivalued and with no > docValues) > > and in that case I get the following error: > > "can not sort on a field w/o docValues unless it is indexed=true > > uninvertible=true and the type supports Uninversion: ww_cc_deprecated_on" > > > > The field: > > <fieldType name="date" class="solr.TrieDateField" omitNorms="true" > > precisionStep="0" positionIncrementGap="0"/> > > <field name="wr_cc_deprecated_on" type="date" indexed="true" > stored="true" > > multiValued="true"/> > > > > I understand then that sorting is always allowed in fields that supports > > uninversion, and that is not the case for all the primitive types. > > > > Best, > > > > Mónica > > > > On Wed, 9 Jun 2021 at 20:00, Alessandro Benedetti <a.benede...@sease.io> > > wrote: > > > > > From the wiki: > > > > > > The value of any primitive field (numerics, string, boolean, dates, > etc.) > > > > which has docValues="true" (or multiValued="false" and > indexed="true", > > in > > > > which case the indexed terms will used to build DocValue like > > structures > > > on > > > > the fly at runtime) > > > > > > > > > I think the documentation is incorrect. > > > > > > Taking a look to the code: > > > > > > > > > org.apache.solr.schema.PrimitiveFieldType#getDefaultMultiValueSelectorForSort > > > <goog_1918207994> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-11854 > > > https://github.com/apache/lucene-solr/commit/e2bba98/ > > > > > > <https://github.com/apache/lucene-solr/commit/e2bba98/> > > > I <https://github.com/apache/lucene-solr/commit/e2bba98/>t seems the > > > documentation was correct, at the time of the original Jira? > > > Maybe a regression happened. > > > Will spend some more time tomorrow > > > > > > -------------------------- > > > Alessandro Benedetti > > > Apache Lucene/Solr Committer > > > Director, R&D Software Engineer, Search Consultant > > > > > > www.sease.io > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 9 Jun 2021 at 17:04, Alexandre Rafalovitch <arafa...@gmail.com > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > I am pretty sure your reality is correct and your document reading > (or > > > > document itself) is less than perfect. docValues are strongly > > > > recommended if you are going to do a lot of sorting. But the ability > > > > to sort existed before docValues were created. > > > > > > > > Can you send the specific (version-specific ideally) link and quote > > > > that confuses you? > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Alex. > > > > > > > > On Wed, 9 Jun 2021 at 11:02, Mónica Marrero < > > monica.marr...@europeana.eu > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > I am using Solr 7.7 in Cloud, and I had understood from the > > > > > documentation that sorting is not possible in multivalued fields > when > > > > > docValues is not activated. To my surprise I am able to directly > sort > > > > (e.g. > > > > > sort=CREATOR asc) using the two fields below (I also copy the > > > definition > > > > of > > > > > the field types): > > > > > > > > > > <fieldType name="int" class="solr.TrieIntField" precisionStep="0" > > > > > positionIncrementGap="0"/><fieldType name="string" > > > class="solr.StrField" > > > > > sortMissingLast="true" omitNorms="true"/> > > > > > <field name="CREATOR" type="string" indexed="true" stored="true" > > > > multiValued > > > > > ="true"/> > > > > > <field name="filter_tags" type="int" indexed="true" stored="true" > > > > > multiValued="true"/> > > > > > > > > > > Am I missing something? 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