Hello Quentin,
Thank you for your answers.
To be honest there's very few users on mac in our institute.
But the director is one of them and isn't happy with the current setup.
I already configured the apple calendar on his macbook, and he wasn't
happy to have it separated from the mail client.
I then installed thunderbird on his laptop and at first he seemed happy.
Now there is a new request from the direction to be able to easily
access the schedule of every employee and it seems the current solution
isn't an easy answer to that requirement.
That is the reason why I am looking for a proper groupware.
Maybe sogo will do, if I can convince the direction to abandon the idea
of using outlook, but for that I will need a proper client so they can
easily collaborate on the go.
Anything that would help me avoid ms exchange is more than welcome.
Thank you for your links, I already read all that before subscribing to
this mail list.
At least I have now one more feedback about the pita this activesync
thing would be.
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Jérôme
On 2023-12-28 15:25, qhivert wrote:
Hello Jérôme,
Is it a company requirement for people to use outlook on Mac? If not,
tell them to use the apple calendar where there is caldav/cardav
especially if the sync is essential. Even if they don't want to, they
will have to if they want their event/contacts.
However, sogo can use activesync but it's very tedious to dimension has
this protocol will use a lot of ram and keep the connection open with a
worker/process for some times. You'll will find the info here ->
https://www.sogo.nu/files/docs/SOGoInstallationGuide.html#_microsoft_enterprise_activesync
And here -> https://www.mail-archive.com/users@sogo.nu/msg20479.html
Regards,
Quentin
From: users-requ...@sogo.nu <users-requ...@sogo.nu> On Behalf Of Jérôme
Melis
Sent: jeudi 28 décembre 2023 02:44
To: Bruno CAPELETO (bruno.capel...@abcreseau.com) <users@sogo.nu>
Subject: Re: [SOGo] Need information about SOGo workflow
Dear Bruno,
thank you very much for your insights.
I would rather like to avoid outlook as I know by experience how much
of a nightmare it can be.
But if I don't find a solution quickly, I'm afraid the direction will
order a migration to MS exchange with all the headaches that implies.
I've looked at openchange a bit and it seems it does all the work, so
I'm not sure why there's a sogo package named activesync nor why I
would need sogo in the first place if all it does is to delegate the
feature I'm looking for to a 3rd party groupware.
That new requirements I have sound hopeless and that truly scares me
but well... I've got to do my job so I'll keep digging for a solution.
Have a great day.
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On 27/12/2023 15:38, Bruno CAPELETO (bruno.capel...@abcreseau.com)
wrote:
Dear Jérôme,
I have been using SOGo for years, including ActiveSync.
My experience with the ActiveSync protocol is not good ; it always
brake down especially with iPhone devices.
Whether it comes from SOGo, from iPhone, or whatever is never clear.
To me - as a non-specialist - this protocol is bullshit.
Regarding the users of Outlook : we have been spending more than 15
years trying to get this shit work.
It simply does not. And the issue is not SOGo, or ActiveSync, or
whatever.
It even does not work with MS365 : there is always from time to time a
big crash.
I know users loves it - when it works. That is the issue. But there is
no way to get something stable over time with Outlook.
To get more in technical details, you have to set up ActiveSync
according to the guide.
It is not installed when you install SOGo.
Kind regards,
Bruno Capeleto
Le 26/12/2023 à 06:13, Jérôme Melis (j.me...@pasteur.la) a écrit :
Hi,
I'm interested in the SOGo groupware solution but I need to understand
it better before deciding if our institute will switch to this
solution.
So far we are using a postfix/dovecot mail server, roundcube is our
webmail.
We also have a calendar solution which is synchronizing via caldav.
The problem with our current solution is it's not covering all our user
needs.
Some people are using outlook on a mac (or iphone) where there isn't
support for plugins, which means the caldav is unsupported too.
I see SOGo can use ActiveSync to solve this.
But I'm not familiar with ActiveSync.
And when checking the official documentation, I only see "Outlook
Connector Configuration Guide" while v3 of SOGo was offering a "Native
Microsoft Outlook Configuration Guide".
I did made a temporary test with the nightly build and I could
successfully connect to our self-hosted sogo server which is using
postfix's database for auth.
But from there I'm not sure what to do the next.
When pointing outlook to that host, it gives me the error: "Log onto
Exchange ActiveSync mail server (EAS): The server cannot be found."
I suppose I'm missing some understanding of the overall architecture
for this to work.
I'm confused, is this activesync feature still available?
Is it possible to plug outlook via activesync directly to the sogo
server (which will retreive user data from postfix database) or do I
have to install a fake ldap/openchange server and duplicate my user
database?
Thanks for your help.
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Jérôme
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