On Sun, Sep 18, 2022 at 4:10 AM David White via Users <users@ovirt.org> wrote:
>
> I thought I'd report back to the list and mention that I was successful in 
> migrating off of the hyperconverged environment onto a stand-alone engine 
> environment, and Gluster has been removed from the oVirt configuration.

Thanks for the report.

>
> I ran into a few minor hiccups, all of which were resolved fairly easily, and 
> I took notes. I intend to submit a PR to the github documentation, since none 
> currently exist for migrating the engine off of a hyperconverged environment.
>
> My only remaining questions at this point is:
>
> Are there things on the hosts themselves that I should cleanup?

You might want to reinstall them from scratch, one-by-one, if you care
that much about them being clean. I personally do not think it's worth
it if your only reason is getting rid of hosted-engine remains, but
you might want to do this regardless for other reasons (e.g. if they
are old machines and accumulated other kinds of cruft).

> I noticed that the "hosted-engine" command still exists. I went to run a yum 
> remove on that, and it tried to remove basically everything...

You can try 'dnf remove --noautoremove ovirt-hosted-engine-setup
ovirt-hosted-engine-ha'. This will remove also 'ovirt-host', which is
not such a good idea - it's a package that has no content, other than
a list of dependencies, on the various packages needed for a
functional oVirt host. Nothing will be broken immediately, but in
principle you risk losing new deps added to a future version of it,
etc.


> so I figured that wasn't actually a good idea.
>
> Do I need to do anything in the oVirt config (maybe something in the Postgres 
> database) to basically tell it that it is no longer self-hosted, but is 
> instead stand-alone?

I do not know all the details, sorry. You might want to deploy a
hosted-engine, dump the engine db, then search the dump for 'hosted'
or something like that. Even checking a dump of a standalone engine
can show you relevant stuff to check.

One item I do know about is how to prevent 'engine-setup' from
preventing you from continuing because it thinks it's a hosted-engine
and not in global maintenance:

https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/thread/SKGWY5ZIBAG5GTWHIPDUO5O64PUZN7Y2/

There is also the field 'hosted_engine_configured' in 'vds_dynamic',
not sure it's safe to change it outside of the engine (but no idea why
it might not be).

Good luck and best regards,

>
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> On Friday, August 19th, 2022 at 11:01 AM, David White via Users 
> <users@ovirt.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Paul,
> Thanks for the response.
>
> I think you're suggesting that I take a hybrid approach, and do a restore of 
> the current Engine onto the new VM. I hadn't thought about this option.
>
> Essentially what I was considering was either:
>
> Export to OVA or something
> OR
> Build a completely new oVirt engine with a completely new domain, etc... and 
> try to live migrate the VMs from the old engine to the new engine.
>
>
> Do I understand you correctly that you're suggesting I install the OS onto a 
> new VM, and try to do a restore of the oVirt settings onto the new VM (after 
> I put the cluster into Global maintenance mode and shutdown the old oVirt)?
>
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> On Friday, August 19th, 2022 at 10:46 AM, Staniforth, Paul 
> <p.stanifo...@leedsbeckett.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> Hello David,
>                       I don't think there's a documentated method to go from 
> a Hosted Engine to standalone just the other way standalone to HE.
>
> I would suggest doing a full backup of the engine prepare the new VM and 
> restore to that rather than trying to export it.
> This way you can shut down the original engine and run the new engine VM to 
> test it works as you will be able to restart the original engine if it 
> doesn't work.
>
> Regards,
>                 Paul S.
>
>
>
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> Subject: [ovirt-users] Re: Should I migrate existing oVirt Engine, or deploy 
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> In other words, I want to migrate the Engine from a hyperconverged 
> environment into a stand-alone setup.
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> ------- Original Message -------
> On Friday, August 19th, 2022 at 10:17 AM, David White via Users 
> <users@ovirt.org> wrote:
>
> Hello,
> I have just purchased a Synology SA3400 which I plan to use for my oVirt 
> storage domain(s) going forward. I'm currently using Gluster storage in a 
> hyperconverged environment.
>
> My goal now is to:
>
> Use the Synology Virtual Machine manager to host the oVirt Engine on the 
> Synology
> Setup NFS storage on the Synology as the storage domain for all VMs in our 
> environment
> Migrate all VM storage onto the new NFS domain
> Get rid of Gluster
>
>
> My first step is to migrate the oVirt Engine off of Gluster storage / off the 
> Hyperconverged hosts into the Synology Virtual Machine manager.
>
> Is it possible to migrate the existing oVirt Engine (put the cluster into 
> Global Maintenance Mode, shutdown oVirt, export to VDI or something, and then 
> import into Synology's virtualization)? Or would it be better for me to 
> install a completely new Engine, and then somehow migrate all of the VMs from 
> the old engine into the new engine?
>
> Thanks,
> David
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