thanks Gianluca for the well thought out response.   I started over and
tried to install RHEL 8 with ovirt 4.4.   I ran into a few problems, which
may be related.   First was that the module javapackages-tools could not be
found.

# yum module enable javapackages-tools
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Error: Problems in request:
missing groups or modules: javapackages-tools


Then, the install of ovirt-engine relies on apache-commons-compress, but no
version could pass module filtering.

[root@r8-bacchus yum.repos.d]# yum install ovirt-engine
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Error:
 Problem: package ovirt-engine-4.4.4.7-1.el8.noarch requires
apache-commons-compress, but none of the providers can be installed
  - cannot install the best candidate for the job
  - package
apache-commons-compress-1.20-1.module+el8.2.1+6727+059d025f.noarch is
filtered out by modular filtering
  - package
apache-commons-compress-1.20-3.module+el8.2.1+7436+4afdca1f.noarch is
filtered out by modular filtering
(try to add '--skip-broken' to skip uninstallable packages or '--nobest' to
use not only best candidate packages)

[root@r8-bacchus yum.repos.d]# yum install ovirt-engine --nobest
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Error:
 Problem: conflicting requests
  - package ovirt-engine-4.4.0.3-1.el8.noarch requires
apache-commons-compress, but none of the providers can be installed
  - package ovirt-engine-4.4.1-1.el8.noarch requires
apache-commons-compress, but none of the providers can be installed
  - package ovirt-engine-4.4.1.1-1.el8.noarch requires
apache-commons-compress, but none of the providers can be installed
  - package ovirt-engine-4.4.1.10-1.el8.noarch requires
apache-commons-compress, but none of the providers can be installed
  - package ovirt-engine-4.4.1.2-1.el8.noarch requires
apache-commons-compress, but none of the providers can be installed
  - package ovirt-engine-4.4.1.3-1.el8.noarch requires
apache-commons-compress, but none of the providers can be installed
  - package ovirt-engine-4.4.1.4-1.el8.noarch requires
apache-commons-compress, but none of the providers can be installed
  - package ovirt-engine-4.4.1.5-1.el8.noarch requires
apache-commons-compress, but none of the providers can be installed
  - package ovirt-engine-4.4.1.6-1.el8.noarch requires
apache-commons-compress, but none of the providers can be installed
  - package ovirt-engine-4.4.1.7-1.el8.noarch requires
apache-commons-compress, but none of the providers can be installed
  - package ovirt-engine-4.4.1.8-1.el8.noarch requires
apache-commons-compress, but none of the providers can be installed
  - package ovirt-engine-4.4.2.6-1.el8.noarch requires
apache-commons-compress, but none of the providers can be installed
  - package ovirt-engine-4.4.3.10-1.el8.noarch requires
apache-commons-compress, but none of the providers can be installed
  - package ovirt-engine-4.4.3.11-1.el8.noarch requires
apache-commons-compress, but none of the providers can be installed
  - package ovirt-engine-4.4.3.12-1.el8.noarch requires
apache-commons-compress, but none of the providers can be installed
  - package ovirt-engine-4.4.3.3-1.el8.noarch requires
apache-commons-compress, but none of the providers can be installed
  - package ovirt-engine-4.4.3.4-1.el8.noarch requires
apache-commons-compress, but none of the providers can be installed
  - package ovirt-engine-4.4.3.5-1.el8.noarch requires
apache-commons-compress, but none of the providers can be installed
  - package ovirt-engine-4.4.3.6-1.el8.noarch requires
apache-commons-compress, but none of the providers can be installed
  - package ovirt-engine-4.4.3.7-1.el8.noarch requires
apache-commons-compress, but none of the providers can be installed
  - package ovirt-engine-4.4.3.8-1.el8.noarch requires
apache-commons-compress, but none of the providers can be installed
  - package ovirt-engine-4.4.3.9-1.el8.noarch requires
apache-commons-compress, but none of the providers can be installed

  - package ovirt-engine-4.4.4-1.el8.noarch requires
apache-commons-compress, but none of the providers can be installed
  - package ovirt-engine-4.4.4.1-1.el8.noarch requires
apache-commons-compress, but none of the providers can be installed
  - package ovirt-engine-4.4.4.2-1.el8.noarch requires
apache-commons-compress, but none of the providers can be installed
  - package ovirt-engine-4.4.4.3-1.el8.noarch requires
apache-commons-compress, but none of the providers can be installed
  - package ovirt-engine-4.4.4.4-1.el8.noarch requires
apache-commons-compress, but none of the providers can be installed
  - package ovirt-engine-4.4.4.5-1.el8.noarch requires
apache-commons-compress, but none of the providers can be installed
  - package ovirt-engine-4.4.4.7-1.el8.noarch requires
apache-commons-compress, but none of the providers can be installed
  - package
apache-commons-compress-1.20-1.module+el8.2.1+6727+059d025f.noarch is
filtered out by modular filtering
  - package
apache-commons-compress-1.20-3.module+el8.2.1+7436+4afdca1f.noarch is
filtered out by modular filtering
(try to add '--skip-broken' to skip uninstallable packages)
(failed reverse-i-search)`java=': yum module list |grep -i ^Cva


Sorry for the length of these errors.   I just thought --nobest might find
something for me.

Here is the enabled modules....

[root@r8-bacchus yum.repos.d]# yum module list --enabled
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Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8 for x86_64 - AppStream (RPMs)
Name               Stream       Profiles Summary

container-tools    rhel8 [d][e] common [ Most recent (rolling) versions of
podma
                                d]       n, buildah, skopeo, runc, conmon,
runc,
                                          conmon, CRIU, Udica, etc as well
as de
                                         pendencies such as
container-selinux bu
                                         ilt and tested together, and
updated as
                                          frequently as every 12 weeks.
pki-deps           10.6 [e]              PKI Dependencies module for PKI
10.6 or
                                          later
postgresql         12 [e]       client,  PostgreSQL server and client
module
                                server [
                                d]
python36           3.6 [d][e]   build, c Python programming language,
version 3.
                                ommon [d 6
                                ]
satellite-5-client 1.0 [d][e]   common [ Red Hat Satellite 5 client
packages
                                d], gui
virt               rhel [d][e]  common [ Virtualization module

                                d]

Hint: [d]efault, [e]nabled, [x]disabled, [i]nstalled


Paul

On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 5:21 PM Gianluca Cecchi <[email protected]>
wrote:

> On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 8:44 PM Paul Dyer <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am laying the groupwork for upgrade ovirt to 4.4.   Since the
>> standalone ovirt mgr is now running on RHEL 7, I have installed RHEL 8 to a
>> new VM.   Unfortunately, after installing ovirt-release43, I am not able to
>> find documentation for the dnf modules required.   All the current
>> documentation point to ovirt-release44 and dnf modules not available for
>> ovirt 4.3/RHEL 8.
>>
>>
>>
> oVirt 4.3.x (both engine server and hypervisors) are only based on CentOS
> 7.x or RH EL 7.x
> oVirt 4.4.y (both engine server and hypervisors) are only based on CentOS
> 8.x or RH EL 8.x
>
> I think 4.3 on RH EL 8 never tested at all by the developers.
>
> If your target is upgrade from 4.3 to 4.4 you have to do an "application"
> backup of the 4.3 engine (see the link at the bottom) and restore it on the
> new engine in 4.4, that is a scratch install on a new system, but can have
> the same ip/hostname as the old engine server, so that it could be
> transparent from an user access point of view.
> Already done both on oVirt and RHV with external engine, local database.
> The old engine and the new one are two vSphere virtual machines.
> You can install the new engine based on RH EL 8 with temporary network
> parameters and then as soon as you have completed the backup of the 4.3 one
> and copied over it you can shutdown the 4.3 engine server, to keep at a
> minimum the absence of an engine for the environment that anyway doesn't
> compromise the workload of your virtual machines.
> Of course HA reactions or live migration are not possible in this time
> frame without an engine.
> The restore and the reconfiguration take minutes if you prepare the new
> engine server in advance.
>
> Read also here for the full details:
> https://www.ovirt.org/documentation/upgrade_guide/
>
> HIH,
> Gianluca
>
>

-- 
Paul Dyer,
Mercury Consulting Group, RHCE
504-338-8750
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