Le 04/01/2017 à 10:09, Andrea Ghelardi a écrit :
Personally I don’t think ansible and ovirt-shell are mutually exclusive.
Those who are in ansible and devops realms are not really scared by
making python/ansible work with ovirt.
From what I gather, playbooks are quite a de-facto pre-requisite to
build up a real SaaC “Software as a Code” environment.
On the other hand, ovirt-shell can and is a fast/easy way to perform
“normal daily tasks”.
totally agree but ovirt-shell is deprecated in 4.1 et will be removed in
4.2. Ansible or sdk4 are proposed as an alternative.
As long as we have good documentation about how to do things, can we
have and support both?
Cheers
Andrea
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Le 30/12/2016 à 20:53, Dan Yasny a écrit :
I personally found that she'll isn't as useful as the python sdk.
I usually open up ipython, load the sdk and interact with ovirt
directly. This is faster and much more powerful than the shell
could ever be.
okay, I suppose you to be a regular python user. Can you imagine how
much time I spent just to understand how it works?
That is to say:
* installing pip and not pip3 because provided
python-ovirt-engine-sdk4 is default installed to
/usr/lib64/python2.7,
* installing ipython,
* importing the good modules,
* finding pertinent examples,
* understand differences between sdk3 and 4
* correcting some wrong examples
* adapting example to my need?
I can't see how it can be fast for the newbie.
What's the first goal of a CLI? to abstract all this stuff for the
python newbie. If you want a easy-to-use webadmin for attracting a
large public, you should provide easy-to-use CLI as well. Ovirt-shell
was a part of my choice to use ovirt.
Yes we can learn to use SDK (I dit it), but I don't think a lot people
who chose ovirt for simplicity wll use it except advanced users.
A new time, thank you for the great stuff for the great oVirt project,
but I find there is too much distance between devs and users.
What do really think the community about this?
On Dec 30, 2016 11:22 AM, "Nathanaël Blanchet" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Interesting work and thank you for this stuff. I played with
some modules (ovirt_vms_facts) to get some vms name for example.
* [root@acore ovirt]# ansible-playbook All_Vms_list.yml
* with
- name: List vms
ovirt_vms_facts:
auth: "{{ ovirt_auth }}"
pattern: name=test_cloud
fetch_nested: true
nested_attributes: name
register: ovirt_vms
- shell: echo "{{ ovirt_vms.name <http://ovirt_vms.name>
}} > vms_name" // doesn't work
* - shell: echo "{{ ovirt_vms }} > vms_name // returns an
unicode json file, that's surely why we can't parse it.
Can you help me to solve this into the ovirt_vms_facts.py
file?
* I have no such problem with ovirt_snaphots_module and I
can easily get the snaphot.id <http://snaphot.id>
variable.... but:
o I had to manually copy the ovirt_snaphsots_module
because it is not present on the git tree. This is
very curious: we can find it here
http://ovirt-ansible-modules.readthedocs.io/en/latest/_modules/ovirt_snapshots_module.htm,
but it is not available on the main ansible git tre.
o On the doc, return values are not described
For the moment, my opinion is that ansible can't be as much
convinient as the current CLI, e.g. ovirt-shell -E "list vms",
out of the box. Is there a really reason to deprecate it?
Le 02/12/2016 à 14:12, Ondra Machacek a écrit :
Hello all,
I would like to kindly ask everyone who is Ansible or
oVirt user for
testing of the new Ansible oVirt modules. For everyone who
is familiar
with the Ansible and oVirt, this[1] describes the steps
you need to do,
to setup oVirt modules library and start using those
modules (Most of those modules will be available in
Ansible 2.3, some of them are already in 2.2).
If you have any issue setting this up, please contact me,
I will do the
best to help you.
If you have an issue, which you think is a bug, please
open an issue
here[2]. Please note that Ansible is merging it's
repositories, so since
next week it will actually be stored here[3]. If you are
missing
anything please open an issue as well, or just contact me,
and I will
do fix it. You are also very welcome to sent PR with fixes.
For those who don't have testing environment which can
test against,
I've created an Vagrant project which will deploy you the
oVirt instance
using Ansible playbooks. You can find how to use it here[4].
The repository also contains few examples[5], so you don't
have to
copy-paste them from the source.
Thanks all for reading this and any feedback,
Ondra
[1]
https://github.com/machacekondra/ovirt-tests/releases/tag/0.1
[2] https://github.com/ansible/ansible-modules-extras/issues
[3] https://github.com/ansible/ansible
[4] https://github.com/machacekondra/ovirt-tests
[5]
https://github.com/machacekondra/ovirt-tests/tree/master/examples
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