On 30.03.2016 12:48, Vasily Averin wrote:
> Dear Karl,
> 
> thank you for explanation.
> however some details are still not it clear.
> 
> I believe you use simfs containers (otherwise you can do not worry about 
> PSBM-34244,
> using of 113.12 kernels also confirms it)
> but it isn't clear how exactly you backup your nodes.
> Do you dump whole partition with containers or just copy containers private 
> areas somehow?
> What filesystem you have on partition with containers.
> What is backup storage in your case?
> 
> Anyway seems you do not freeze filesystem with containers before backup.
> This functionality was broken in RHEL6 kernels quite long time,
> and Red Hat fixed it in 2.6.32-504.x and 573.x kernels.
> 
> https://access.redhat.com/solutions/1506563
> 
> Probably these fixes affect your testcase.
> 
> I'm not sure of course,
> may be it isn't and some other fixes are guilty:
> Red Hat added >7000 new patches into 2.6.32-573.x kernels
> many our patches was changed during re-base,
> and many new patches was added.
> There was to many changes between 108.x and 113.x kernels.
> 
> Our tests did not detected significant performance degradation,
> but it means nothing, most likely we just did not measured your testcase.
> 
> I do not expect that situation will be changed on 113.21 kernel, 
> seems we did not fixed similar issues last time.
> 
> Yes, you-re right, our 042stab114.x kernels will be based
> on last released RHEL6.7 kernel 2.6.32-573.22.1.el6.
> its validation is in progress at present,
> and I hope we'll publish it in nearest future.

just FYI: 042stab114.5 is published already
https://openvz.org/Download/kernel/rhel6-testing/042stab114.5

> 
> However I did not found any related bugfixes in new RHEL6 kernels,
> and doubt that it helps you.
> 
> Also we're going to make 115.x kernel based on RHEL6 update8 beta kernel 
> 2.6.32-621.el6,
> it have no chances to be released in stable branch but its testing helps us 
> to speed-up 
> our rebase to RHEL6.8 release kernel (we expect RHEL6u8 will be released in 
> end of May).
> 
> The work on 115.x kernel is in progress, and I hope it should be done in next 
> few days.
> 
> So I would like to propose you following plan:
> please check how works 113.21, 114.x and 115.x kernels, (may be it works 
> already)
> if issue will be still present, please reproduce the problem once again, 
> crash affected host, 
> create new bug in jira and push me again. I'll send you private link for 
> vmcore uploading.
> Investigation of kernel crash dump file probably allows me to find bottleneck 
> in your case.
> 
> Thank you,
>       Vasily Averin
> 
> On 29.03.2016 21:03, Karl Johnson wrote:
>> Hi Vasily,
>>
>> Every weekend I do backups of all CT which take a lot of IO. It
>> didn't affect much load average before 108 but as soon as I upgraded
>> to 113, load got very high and nodes became sluggish during backups.
>> It might be something else but I was looking for feedback if someone
>> else had the same issue. I will continue to troubleshoot this issue.
>> Meanwhile, I will upgrade them from 113.12 to 113.21 and see how it
>> goes even if there's nothing related to this in the changelog.
>>
>> Thanks for the reply,
>>
>> Karl
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 5:21 AM, Vasily Averin <v...@virtuozzo.com 
>> <mailto:v...@virtuozzo.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     Dear Karl,
>>
>>     no, we know nothing about possible performance degradation between
>>     042stab108.x and 042stab113.x kernels.
>>     High load average and CPU peaks  are not a problems per se,
>>     it can be caused by increased activity on your nodes.
>>
>>     Could you please explain in more details,
>>     why you believe you have a problem on your nodes?
>>
>>     Thank you,
>>             Vasily Averin
>>
>>     On 28.03.2016 20:28, Karl Johnson wrote:
>>     > Hello,
>>     >
>>     > Did anyone notice performance degradation after upgrading vzkernel to
>>     > 042stab113.X? I’ve been running 042stab108.5 on few nodes for a while
>>     > with no issue and upgraded to 042stab113.12 few weeks ago to fix an
>>     > important CVE and rebase to latest rhel6 kernel.
>>     >
>>     > Since the upgrade from 108.5 to 113.12, I noticed much higher load
>>     > average on those upgraded OpenVZ nodes, mostly when IO is heavily
>>     > used. High CPU peaks are much more frequent. I would be curious to
>>     > know if someone else has the same issue. I wouldn’t downgrade because
>>     > of security fix PSBM-34244.
>>     >
>>     > Regards,
>>     >
>>     > Karl
>>     >
>>     >
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