On 19:14 Mon 03 Aug , Gena Makhomed wrote: > On 03.08.2015 17:09, Sergey Bronnikov wrote: > > >From source code point of view OpenVZ is an umbrella for OpenVZ legacy, > >opensourced components from commercial Virtuozzo, CRIU > >and other mini projects (like LibCT etc). > > >From people point of view OpenVZ is project which consolidates community, > >opensource code for containers (mentioned above), and brand itself. > > >Virtuzzo 7 is a Linux distribution based on OpenVZ components targeted to > >everyone who want to get free product with containers and KVM hypervisor from > >Odin. You can use it even you don't want to pay to Odin. > > Ok, but what is the difference between > free and open source version of Virtuzzo 7 > and paid version of Virtuzzo 7 from Odin ?
The difference will be in payment additions which can be installed via yum. We explained that in articles: - http://habrahabr.ru/company/parallels/blog/259385/ (Russian) - http://blog.odin.com/serviceprovider/2015/7/14/coming-soon-a-more-open-platform-for-openvz (English) > This is need for ability to make decision: > Can we in future use open source Virtuozzo version, > or we need to buy commercial version of Virtuozzo > or we should migrate from OpenVZ to CentOS7.1+KVM. Yes, Virtuozzo will be free and based on opensource components. > Now - separation of features between open source > and commercial versions of Virtuozzo 7 is not clear. > As I already understand, > http://www.odin.com/products/virtuozzo/ > - is home page of commercial version of Virtuozzo, > I redirected to this page from site virtuozzo.com > > But where is home page of open source version of Virtuozzo? > From virtuozzo.org and virtuozzo.net I also redirected > to page http://www.odin.com/products/virtuozzo/ > with description of commercial version of PCS6, > which also named "Virtuozzo", but version 6.x > > So we have three different things > with the same name "Virtuozzo": > > 1) "Virtuozzo 6" AKA "legacy Virtuozzo" AKA "PCS 6" > 2) "Virtuozzo 7" AKA "commercial Virtuozzo 7" > 3) "Virtuozzo 7" AKA "free/open source Virtuozzo 7" > > As you can see, three different things, > all three with *one* name "Virtuozzo" - it is confusing. > > And even more confusing, what all these three *different* things > have the same home page: http://www.odin.com/products/virtuozzo/ > from virtuozzo.com and virtuozzo.org familiar product home pages. > > ========================================================= > > >Use one entry point - https://openvz.org if you use free and opensource > >Virtuozzo > >and go to http://www.odin.com/products/virtuozzo/ if you pay for Virtuozzo > >and want professional support from Odin. > > Page https://openvz.org/Virtuozzo should be considered > as home page of "free/open source Virtuozzo 7" product, > regardless of virtuozzo.org and virtuozzo.net domain names, > which currently redirects to http://www.odin.com/products/virtuozzo/ ? > > >P.S. Yes, there is a bit mess with brands, but why you are aware about brands > >not about product itself? > > Because, for example, Red Hat now have two different products > and two different brands, "CentOS" and "Red Hat Enterprise Linux", which, > however, created from the same source with minimal changes. > > Also, NGINX INC company have two different products, > "NGINX Plus" - commercial version with paid support > and "nginx" - free and open source version. > > Home pages also different: > > https://www.redhat.com/rhel > https://www.centos.org/ > > https://www.nginx.com/ > http://nginx.org/ > > >>At least it will be very familiar and useful to all nginx users, > >>both commercial and open source versions of Nginx / Nginx Plus. > >> > >>As you probably know - many OpenVZ users are also nginx users, > >>and inversely: many nginx users are also OpenVZ users - also true. > > > >Unexpected fact. Do you have proofs? > > Only common sense. > > Most OpenVZ containers usage - for VDS/VPS hosting providers. > > Most VDS/VPS used for hosting web sites in the internet. > > Most web sites are created using PHP. > > Hosting providers have VDS/VPS with 256 MiB and 512 MiB RAM > and 0 MiB of swap. Using such VPS/VDS with httpd Apache > is practically impossible for any reasonable workload. > > So, now it is only one possible variant: > > use nginx + php-fpm for hosting web sites inside VDS/VPS > with limited amound of RAM. > > Even for CT with 2 GiB or 4 GiB of RAM - > nginx + php-fpm still the best choice > for hosting sites created using PHP. > > P.S. > > To minimize impact from old OpenVZ container suspend/resume bug > https://bugzilla.openvz.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2470 I create workaround > http://mailman.nginx.org/pipermail/nginx-devel/2015-August/007155.html > And as I can see - this workaround will be accepted in the nginx. Thanks for good news. I have added that info to bug. > I hope you don't migrate bugzilla for OpenVZ to different site name, > for example, strange site https://bugs.openvz.org/browse/OVZ-5587 > and hyperlinks inside nginx sources will be still valid in future. > > -- > Best regards, > Gena _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@openvz.org https://lists.openvz.org/mailman/listinfo/users
