Hi Craig,

Am 24.06.22 um 01:12 schrieb Craig Russell:
> Hi Mattias,
>
>> On Jun 23, 2022, at 04:03, Matthias Seidel <matthias.sei...@hamburg.de> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Yes, that is an old bug becoming more visible on macOS because some
>> extensions were updated recently.
>>
>> Just as a quick "work around": Please disable the option for "Online
>> Update" in your AOO preferences.
> Just to clarify: the Online Update has a section to (O) check for updates and 
> a different section to (O) automatically download updates.
>
> I assume you are advising users to disable automatic downloads but keep check 
> for updates?

No, "Check for updates automatically" should be disabled to prevent
problems on macOS.

Regards,

   Matthias

>
> Regards
> Craig
>> Regards,
>>
>>    Matthias
>>
>> Am 23.06.22 um 12:09 schrieb PCS:
>>> CORRECTION, the Extension Update glitch froze a spreadsheet I had put aside 
>>> in the Dock and forgotten was open when I tested with a couple of new 
>>> documents. It was successfully recovered but it is still a serious glitch.
>>>
>>> ________
>>>
>>>
>>> I have used LibreOffice on Linux fairly often over the past 12 years and 
>>> occasionally on the Mac (my main computer), but I prefer OpenOffice on the 
>>> Mac.
>>>
>>> LO seems to be more fully featured than OO and some of its features are 
>>> better implemented than the same ones in OO, but overall I find OO easier 
>>> to use (for what I use it for, others may disagree) despite a couple of 
>>> annoying issues (the worst is the RH side panel popping out unwanted if you 
>>> happen to click on its opening button when scrolling up or down or when 
>>> resizing a window: the activator should be out of the way, in the top menu 
>>> panel, or at least have an option to move it out of the way, maybe some 
>>> people actually like the Jack-in-a-box). The less frequent updates of OO is 
>>> a plus also, obviously we all want to be up to date with security but other 
>>> than that I see no need for frequent updates of a bread-and-butter 
>>> application that does the job you need it to do, unless there is a genuine 
>>> improvement, like stopping the RH panel from being a Jack-in-the-box, or if 
>>> it needs to be updated for compatibility with an OS update.
>>>
>>> So overall I am content to stay with OO rather than move to LO (I do have 
>>> LO installed, but I rarely use it), and unless OO and LO can be 
>>> successfully merged, with options to allow users to configure the merged 
>>> app to work the way they want to work, I would not want to see OO “wound 
>>> down and shuttered”.
>>>
>>> All Flaviu Tamas needs to do, after all, is to uninstall OO and use LO, 
>>> problem solved for him without denying others what for them is a useful 
>>> alternative. Who is he anyway, to try to dictate that we should all use the 
>>> app he prefers? That seems pretty arrogant to me, he should not assume that 
>>> he knows what is best for me better than I do. He is probably like my 
>>> father, who used to say, when he owned a 1928 Dodge, “If you can’t afford a 
>>> Dodge, dodge a Ford”, then changed it to, “If you can’t afford a Ford, 
>>> dodge a Dodge” when he bought a 1953 Ford Customline, i.e. "I am such an 
>>> expert that whatever I buy / have / use is automatically what everyone else 
>>> should buy / have / use. Flaviu should just use the app he/she prefers and 
>>> let others continue to have access to the one they prefer, and I am 
>>> surprised that nobody else has told him/her that already.
>>>
>>> There is an annoying glitch in the recent OO Mac update that seems to make 
>>> the case for not updating without good reason. When an OO document is 
>>> opened now, the green update arrow appears in the main menu bar, but when 
>>> you click on it it doesn’t work properly. For a while it opened an 
>>> initially transparent Extension Manager window offering a Spelling 
>>> dictionary when you clicked it visible, but clicking on it froze the 
>>> application and it had to be Force Quit and reopened. The app's data 
>>> recovery feature minimised data loss, but it was still a nuisance. I have 
>>> been ignoring the green arrow to circumvent the problem, but have just 
>>> tried it again (with a new document, so as not to risk compromising a real 
>>> one), and now the problem seems to be half fixed, clicking on the green 
>>> arrow in the main menu bar doesn’t do anything, not even offer a genuine 
>>> extension update, so at least the app no longer freezes. But this is a good 
>>> example of why I am normally a late updater, because new updates of the OS 
>>> or an app often have glitches in them that I would much rather have 
>>> discovered by other people than discover myself, hence my dislike of LO’s 
>>> much more frequent updates, I haven’t had problems with them, but the more 
>>> frequent they are the greater is the risk, so I prefer less frequent and 
>>> better tested updates, and the glitch in recent OO update is a significant 
>>> disappointment.
>>>
>>> PCS
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 23 Jun 2022, at 5:16 pm, Frank McIsaac <snapa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Well said FC
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Snapafun - Frank&Jan
>>>> Rock'n'Rolling Forever
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 23 Jun 2022, 6:20 pm Fernando Cassia, <fcas...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 22/06/2022, Flaviu Tamas <m...@flaviutamas.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> Why hasn't OpenOffice been wound down & shuttered?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The existence of the website makes users assume that OpenOffice is
>>>>>> still actively being developed
>>>>> It is.
>>>>>
>>>>>> when those users would be much better
>>>>>> served migrating to LibreOffice.
>>>>> Speak for yourself. I for one wouldn' t touch LO with a 10ft pole.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I've seen this conversation several times over the past few years in
>>>>>> various open source communities.
>>>>> Cows see a lot of trains pass by while pasturing, and that doesn' t
>>>>> make the cows train engineers.
>>>>>
>>>>>> At the very least, a prominent notice that users should use
>>>>>> LibreOffice on the main OpenOffice site would be nice.
>>>>> Please, go away,
>>>>>
>>>>> FC
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