At 05:49 12/01/2018 +0000, Helen Pitt wrote:
I have been trying to unsubscribe from time to time, for about two years, nothing I do works and I continue to receive a gazillion emails most weeks. It's very tiresome and if I object I generally receive really abusive mails from various people unknown, telling me how incredibly stupid I am.

I was preparing to offer you help with this, but then I realised that you had written before. You sent a query about OpenOffice a year ago, hijacking an existing, unrelated thread. In my reply, I gently pointed out that you would be unpopular with others (not with me, in fact) if you did this, and also that it could be counterproductive to your obtaining any help.

Your query asked about creating a second slide in a presentation. I provided carefully laid out, detailed help on various ways to do this. Since you were evidently a beginner, not only with using a mailing list but also with OpenOffice and its various help facilities, I mentioned the built-in help as well as giving you a link to the Impress Guide available from the web site (including a page reference). To avoid embarrassment to you, I replied privately. (I'm now risking complaints from some others by admitting this in this public message.) My experience is sufficient for me to be confident that the advice I gave was accurate and valuable. I was not abusive nor did I in any way suggest or imply that you were "stupid".

I received no thanks - but that's perfectly OK, of course: there is no need and I don't expect it. But you did reply, and the total of your reply was to write "Oh bog off you sanctimonious, unhelpful twat." (I apologise for repeating such disgusting language to the list, but my point would be lost without it.) I know this because I still have the relevant mail messages.

I don't condone anyone's behaviour if they really have been abusive to you or called you "stupid", but this record shows that the idea that you are sweetness and light and being unfairly treated by others is not the whole story. The responsibility to conduct oneself in an adult and courteous manner applies to you as well as to anyone trying to help you. This mailing list generally operates without abuse; it's unfortunate when anyone behaves as you did.

As I say, I was considering helping you with your current wish to unsubscribe from the list, but other readers may understand why I now choose not to. But I do note that the OpenOffice web site gives very full instructions, *including what to do if you are having difficulties*, so the solution to your problem was and is always there for you to read.

Brian Barker

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