2015-10-25 23:01 GMT+01:00 Lee Fisher <[email protected]>:

> On 10/25/2015 12:38 AM, adam wrote:
> > Guys,
> >
> > your product is open and free but it's by no means mature - it takes me
> > back to the MS Office 4.2  that I was running under a Win NT on a crappy
> > 386 back in the aerly ninenties - I had a "save after every sentence"
> > habbit engrained so well that it took years to get rid of. Now I
> installed
> > OpenOffice 4.1.1 - and I'm developing the same habbit all over again -
> with
> > the bitching and cursing over lost work included. I'm seriously
> thinking of
> > just dishing out the money for an MS office - you know, suffer once and
> > then enjoy...
>
> Adam,
>
> It appears you also have the engrained habbit of merely bitching and
> complaining at office suites that cause crashes, but not offer any
> useful information about the problem you have.
>
> If you have have an app that crashes, you need to give sufficient
> information so that it can be reproduced and fixed. Same goes if you
> were bitching about MSO instead of AOO or LO. You need to give enough
> information about the problems you are having. The post you made is not
> sufficient.
>
> Additionally, an additional benefit of open source over closed-source is
> you can file the bug yourself, to ensure that it gets filed. And if
> you're able to, you can fix it yourself, instead of giving vague
> complaints to volunteers who are giving you software and not charging
> you for it. It seems a bit rude to just come in and crap on them. If
> you're not willing to describe the problem well enough for others to
> fix, then what's the point in complaining? Do you want AOO to fix the
> problem(s) you have, or just want to vent and keep things as they are?
>
> LibreOffice is another option besides Apache OpenOffice, before going
> back to Microsoft Office. Bluntly, LO is more stable than AOO, in my
> usage.


Then your usage must be the opposite of mine… :P I used LibreOffice for a
couple of years, but finally I had enough and went back to Apache
OpenOffice. LibreOffice destroyed my most important spreadsheet so much
that it couldn't repair it. Fortunately, Apache OpenOffice repaired it just
fine… (if the latter would have failed, I do backups at least once a day,
so there was no real issue, but still annoying). Some time later I tried
LibreOffice again and it destroyed another important spreadsheet, and I
gave it up for quite some time, I guess. This time not even Apache
OpenOffice could repair the file, so I had to revert to the latest backup
copy.

Off topic, sorry, just couldn't resist…


> But don't forget to report the bug you're having in AOO, before
> you leave it unreported and move elsewhere. Additionally, if LO fails in
> the same way, you should also report the issue to their bug database.
>
> Realistically, most open source is "good enough" for the main 80% usage
> case. Microsoft spends millions each year adding dozens of new features
> in MSO that you'll never use, and doing more testing than FOSS projects
> do. You get to pay for those benefits each year when you rent a copy of
> their software.
>
> FWIW, The only time I can get AOO to crash frequently is using Impress,
> in Outline Mode, and converting big chunks of pasted ASCII text into a
> set of new slides, adding new and collapsing two existing slides seems
> to be the main cause of crashes in my normal use. This instability is in
> AOO and LO since forever. Once I can debug this, I'll file a bug, and a
> patch if I can. I use recent builds of AOO (and LO) on
> MacOSX/Windows/Linux on a regular basis, no crashes except for above
> situation. I never stopped the habit of saving every 5min, exiting,
> backing up file, and restarting, with any office suite. :-|
>

Wow, that must be very time consuming, unless you do it automatically… or
even then…


>
> Thanks,
> Lee
>
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