On 8/1/2014 2:19 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
Hello Dale,

On Fri, Aug 01, 2014 at 01:51:45AM -0500, Dale Erwin wrote:
On 8/1/2014 1:26 AM, Dale Erwin wrote:
It really doesn't matter what languages happen to be offered here,
as you can easily select More... at the bottom of the list,
whereupon you can choose from the full set of languages. Spelling
checking will be available in only those languages for which you
have spelling dictionaries installed.

This method of selecting language sets the local character property.
Remember that you may prefer to do this through character styles or
paragraph styles.

OK, just now, to test what you are telling me, I opened a new
document and entered some text in Spanish (nothing else in the
document) then I highlighted it, clicked on Tools -> Language ->
Selection and the only two languages offered are English (which is
checked I presume because English is set as the default language) and
Catalan.  So I clicked on More, as you suggest, and I get a dialog
box named "character" with tabs for Font, Font Effects, Position,
Hyperlink and Background.
That's probably all moot, because I just found a web page:
<https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Languagepack> and it says: "A
Language pack is a type of add-on for OpenOffice.org to get more
languages integrated without to install more than one Office set. It
contains only files to display, e.g., menus and dialogs in a specific
language incl. the spell checking libraries (since OOo 3.2). If
available the help content is also translated."

So evidently you are mistaken about the language packs not including
the spell checking LIBRARIES (not dictionaries), and now I am back at
square one.  I realize that Spanish and Catalan are very similar
languages, but I don't have Catalan installed and I do have Spanish
installed.
Language packs do not include dictionaries, only the full install sets
include them; this is a known issue tracked under
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124473

Dictionaries are extensions, so you have to search for a dictionary in
the extension's site: http://extensions.openoffice.org/

Concerning the list of languages offered on the "Tools"
- "Language"-"For Selection|Paragraph|all text" (you can access
a similar menu from the status bar control that displays the current
language), this list is built from a feature called "language guessing",
and does not depend on the installed dictionaries. "Language guessing"
is just a guess, as its name says, so don't expect it to be 100%
reliable.

Concerning the "Character" dialog that you can open from the menu
"Tools" - "Language" - "For Selection" - "More..." (or from the context
menu: right-click on the selected text and select "Character..."), the
"Language" is an attribute of the "Font", so you will find it on the
"Font" tab, in a list box. This location of the "Language" attribute is
rather misleading, ideally there should be a toolbar item to set the
language - something like
http://aoo-ui-extras.apache-extras.org.codespot.com/git.wiki/LanguageBox_dropdown.png

Also note the original suggestion made by Brian: instead of this way of
settings the language attribute (known as "hard formatting"), it is
better to use styles.


Regards

Yes, I searched the extensions site and all I found were what looked like 3rd party dictionaries and none for the two languages I need: Spanish and Italian.

I understand what you're saying that styles would be the better way to handle the language settings, but at this point what difference would it make if I don't have the dictionaries. However, are not the "spelling LIBRARIES" (not dictionaries) mentioned above sufficient? I don't know what the difference might be between a dictionary and a library.

I'm beginning to think that the split of OpenOffice/LibreOffice is going to be the death of this product.

Dale Erwin

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