On Sun, 11 Feb 2024 at 11:42, Andreas Reichel <
andr...@manticore-projects.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 2024-02-11 at 09:50 +1100, Owen Thomas wrote:
>
> On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 at 13:46, Andreas Reichel <
> andr...@manticore-projects.com> wrote:
>
> Smart people will become smarter and faster using it. Others won't.
>
>
> What do you mean when you say this?
>
>
> What I meant was: it amplifies experience and skills. If you are
> experienced it will make you faster because you know when to trust and use
> it. If you are inexperienced it will harm you because it can pretend
> providing "solutions", which actually may be harmful or wrong.
>

Yes, I understand that perhaps it does help one who is already experienced
leverage off the experience of others to quickly come to an optimal
solution to a particular problem.

 Perhaps I would agree to using an AI that makes suggestions without
"learning" from the code it is being exposed to.


>
>
> I think I would surely benefit from some assistance too, but I am afraid
> that an AI algorithm may suggest what it found in my code to a wider
> developer community, thus leaking my own work to a wider world out of my
> control.
>
>
> That is a different and very valid and interesting angle to look at it:
> what guarantees are there when its integrated into your UI, which opens ALL
> your code? None and nothing! They just will say "sorry" when eventually
> caught and that's it.
>

I would recommend Netbeans think about this scenario. I believe that the
point I make in this reply above about preventing the AI from being trained
on the code it is exposed to in a particular user's IDE would be considered
valuable to many.


> I would say, when you believed in proprietary code then IDE AI integration
> was not for you even when it worked.
>

I'm not averse to publishing my code and being attributed for it - that's
why I do this. Hence, I would be flattered if I saw snippets of my
published code being suggested back to me by an AI, but I wouldn't be as
happy if I saw unpublished work appearing. I will steer clear of an AI
looking at the code in my IDE for now and wait a while perhaps until this
AI stuff matures; let others make the mistakes that I hopefully avoid. :)


> Although the same concern applies to GitHub already. So unless you host by
> yourself strictly (as we do, except for what we publish as OpenSource) this
> concern should not be new.
>

Just as well because I have no code in GitHub.

  Owen.

>
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