Dear all,

I seem to have raised a bit of a storm initially that then blew over as quickly as it started. One of the criticisms levelled was that the conversation was being held on the [ANNOUNCE] thread so I've removed that from the subject line now - but any one of us could have done that earlier.

If I may introduce myself: I am a hobbyist. I am teaching myself Java through reading books and other online sources (some of which are more help than others) and feel I'm making good progress. So I guess I fall half way between an end-user and a developer. I have inherited an application written in Delphi and which runs only on Windows. Since I wanted a way of offering the app on other platforms I decided that Java seemed the right way to go. This means I am part way through a complete rewrite from scratch since attempting a port direct from Delphi would only lead to tears. Since I am a hobbyist there is no way I can ever justify paying for cross-compilers for different OSs, hence my choice of Java.

I have received updates for my Java installation at regular intervals so I *assumed* I had the latest version, the most recent being dated October 2023. I now realise that this is from Java.com and is fixed to updating/bugfixing Java 8. I didn't realise that the professional development community had moved on and was now plugged into Oracle and Java.net which seem to be under totally different care and maintenance.

So it seems that I need to refocus my attention to JDK21 from Oracle and cross my fingers and hope that my current project survives the sudden upgrade.

By the way, the app I'm working on is described at wagonflow.co.uk if anyone's interested.

Regards,

Judi Rastall

On 19/12/2023 23:25, Scott Palmer wrote:
Some of this confusion is caused by the fact that there is no longer a separate JRE download. Java.com was targeted at end users, not developers. There is indeed no update to the Java 8 JRE as the JRE is discontinued. The JDK is a different story.

Scott

On Dec 18, 2023, at 2:55 PM, Leo Donahue <donahu...@gmail.com> wrote:




On Mon, Dec 18, 2023, 13:09 Stephen Winnall <st...@winnall.ch> wrote:

    Why is everyone avoiding answering Judi’s question?


On the NetBeans main page, it says indirectly that you can't install with java 8, you need 11+


    Deployment Platforms

The Apache NetBeans 20 binary releases require JDK 11+, and officially support running on JDK 11, 17 and 21.



https://netbeans.apache.org/front/main/download/nb20/


    I don’t pretend to be the expert but the answer to Judi’s
    question is: download newer (post-v8) versions of Java from Zulu
    (https://www.azul.com/downloads/?package=jdk#zulu) or some other
    OpenJDK site.

    Cheers,
    Steve

    On 18 Dec 2023, at 19:04, Michael Bien <mbie...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 18.12.23 18:22, Judi Rastall wrote:
    I go to my Java installation (which says it is Java v8 update
    391), click on check for updates, and it tells me I have the
    latest version.

    java isn't going to update to the next major version on windows.
    I don't think the newer JDKs have even an updater anymore (not
    sure, might be vendor dependent).

    The easiest way to get started on windows is to use one of the
    community installers which bundle a current JDK with NB in one
    package. If you don't want that, then check the requirements on
    the download page and install a supported JDK of a vendor you
    prefer.

    -mbien


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