I think the suggestion is to learn about a subject before making statements about it.  E.g. it isn’t the “job of the Apache Netbeans” [to implement user requested features.]. A “job” is a function performed for pay - work. Who is getting paid - and by whom - to implement those features?

I think Andreas put it well in his response with respect to how features get implemented in a community supported tool.


On Sep 20, 2022, at 7:46 AM, Amn Ojee Uw <amnoje...@gmail.com> wrote:


Thanks, I would love to check it out when I get some downtime. 
However,  something tells me that you know the law, but not the message in it, thank you nonetheless. 😊 

On Tue., Sep. 20, 2022, 7:40 a.m. Geertjan Wielenga, <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
Take a look around at the apache.org website to see what it is about (i.e., all volunteer programmers, just like you; you want something, you build it).

Gj

On Tue, 20 Sep 2022 at 13:38, Amn Ojee Uw <amnoje...@gmail.com> wrote:
Well, isn't that the job of the Apache Netbeans.
The features requests is what users do.
If I have a request and Netbeans wants to include any of us in that teem, one could help. I love the suggestion of the OP, and respect the suggestion being offered. However, accepting that suggestion would require too much effort for a single developer; not only time wise, but also mental and physical, just to mention some. This kind of endeavours are better suited for a stablish company like Apache.
I'm offering my help, in case one of the developers need coffee or something from the kitchen :), 7 to 10 hour a week.
I truly hope Apache is not just reading this emails,  but also giving them the cerebral value they deserve.


On Tue., Sep. 20, 2022, 3:37 a.m. László Kishalmi, <laszlo.kisha...@gmail.com> wrote:
Well, pick a language and start writing the support for that. It's that simple.

On Tue, Sep 20, 2022, 00:22 N <navin....@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,

I was an ardent user of Netbeans from 2009 to around 2016, while using Java (and for a short while when using C++ and Python). I've even written about it, and linked to James Gosling's support for Netbeans.
The reason for mentioning this, is because current popular IDE's lack the usability that Netbeans has. There is a LOT of features that are very thoughtfully crafted, and has left me wishing it was there in other IDE's too. Problems with other IDE's:
  • Intellij Idea: Too heavy on resources. Can't run it on my 2GB RAM, Celeron laptop.
  • VS Code: The various view panels are inflexible in position and simple tasks that should have been easily runnable, are complex in accessibility and usage. Julia's plugin for VS Code makes it extremely slow to run Julia programs.
  • Spyder: Poor support for refactoring.
  • Sublime text: Unbelievably un-intuitive IDE. Need to Google search for how to do anything in it.
  • Atom: Is already being sunsetted.
  • Eclipse and LiClipse: Is kind of ok, but not as good as Netbeans.
It's not just me. When using Java, many of my juniors were also enthusiastically vocal in their preference for Netbeans. You've built a great IDE. If Netbeans could be streamlined to be lightweight, bug-free and if support for languages like Python, Julia, R and C++ is added/improved, and if Netbeans could be marketed more, it'd be a great help to the software community.

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Regards,
Navin


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