Indeed, there is no reason to switch back to Oracle JDK unless you want
legal ambiguities. There are many JDK vendors/builds now, the Oracle build
doesn't have anything fancy, they themselves tried very hard to kill it and
now want back into the spotlight. I don't think it works that way and I
can't think of a reason a corporation would use them without a support
contract with them. It's only risks.

--emi


On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 3:28 AM Andreas Reichel <
[email protected]> wrote:

> All,
>
> in my opinion, even if Oracle changed the terms and meant it (which would
> be welcome of course) -- there won't be a guarantee, that they will
> flip-flop again after a new lawyer/COO/whatever arrived.
>
> Any corporate's worst nightmare is to a java stack running, which is
> suddenly affected by such legal threads. Its all about trust and
> confidence, not necessarily about technical performance.
>
> So at least for us, it is Liberica and as little Oracle as ever possible
> and no announcement is going to change that.
> Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, try to avoid.
>
> Good luck.
>
> On Tue, 2021-09-14 at 19:12 -0500, Raul Cosio wrote:
>
> Thanks Will, interesting reading but I still don't get it. Comments from
> the group are welcome.
> I've read the license many times but it doesn't look clear to me, the
> license says that It grants to you, a limited license to internally use the
> unmodified programs for the purposes of "developing, testing, prototyping
> and demonstrating your application, and running the program *for you own
> personal use or internal business operations*". That last part does look
> to me the same as the last license because it means that I can use the JDK
> for my "private personal use", and in my company I can use it "for
> internal business operations". Running the JDK for a public tomcat web
> server is considered internal business operations?. However, as you
> indicated in your email, Donald Smith in his blog, said that "it is free
> for commercial and production use" as long as it is not redistributed for a
> fee. Would that mean that I can sell my product with a JDK included as long
> as I include a paragraph saying that "The JDK is included freely as a
> courtesy"?
>
> Regards,
> Raul Cosio
>
> On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 12:34 PM Will Hartung <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> JDK 17 is out.
>
> And there was this interesting development.
>
> https://blogs.oracle.com/java/post/free-java-license
>
> Top two bullet points:
>
> +   Oracle is making the industry leading Oracle JDK available for free,
> including all quarterly security updates.  This includes commercial and
> production use.
>
> +   The new license is the "Oracle No-Fee Terms and Conditions" (NFTC)
> license.  This license for the Oracle JDK permits free use for all users,
> even commercial and production use.  Redistribution is permitted as long as
> it is not for a fee.
>
> So, I thought this was interesting news.
>
> Regards,
>
> Will Hartung
>
>
>

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