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Gj On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 7:07 PM Peter Steele <steeleh...@gmail.com> wrote: > Oracle already has "donated" it in a way because of the openjdk project. > Nb-javac is just an extension of the javac distributed with added extras to > make ide's able to parse the results of compiling better (that's my take). > Intelij does a similar thing, presumably based on the openjdk code. > > The difference being intelij doesn't make you download something extra. So > the question is valid, why is netbeans different to intelij in this respect > and why does it have to be downloaded separately. I personally find it > weird why oracle thinks it wants to keep the extended javac code a secret > when the javac code is visible at the openjdk project. > > On Sat, 29 Dec 2018, 17:43 Geertjan Wielenga > <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.invalid wrote: > >> No, that's the point. It will never be donated to Apache. It belongs to >> Oracle. Oracle is never going to donate its Java compiler, or forks >> thereof, to anybody. >> >> Gj >> >> On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 6:41 PM Alex O'Ree <alexo...@apache.org> wrote: >> >>> Is nb-javac on the roadmap for being donated to apache? >>> >>> On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 10:54 AM Geertjan Wielenga < >>> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Why can't we just bundle it all together and have it ready to go in the >>>>> zip? >>>>> >>>> >>>> Because, for example, in the case of Java support in Apache NetBeans, >>>> the nb-javac compiler belongs to Oracle and is GPL licensed and hence >>>> cannot be distributed by Apache. You need to install it yourself, i.e., >>>> individually accept the licensing terms. >>>> >>>> Gj >>>> >>>> On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 4:52 PM Alex O'Ree <alexo...@apache.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> For what it's worth, I often have to install netbeans on computers >>>>> that are not connected to the internet. In v8.2 and prior, I could >>>>> download >>>>> the EE version and have everything I need to get up and running (except >>>>> for >>>>> maven dependencies and any additional netbeans plugins). Maven >>>>> dependencies >>>>> can be synced using a local nexus server and some swivel chair action and >>>>> i >>>>> was able to find a way to clone the entire netbeans plugin repo for local >>>>> installations. >>>>> >>>>> With the newer installs, we're pretty much forced o be online during >>>>> the first "activation" of a specific feature. Why can't we just bundle it >>>>> all together and have it ready to go in the zip? Alternatively, if there a >>>>> single place there all of the online activation stuff downloads the >>>>> necessary dependencies from then it's possible that i can just clone that >>>>> website/repo. Is this how it works? If so, where is the repo? >>>>> >>>>
