Quote from Chuck Davis's email: "...Combine a Java desktop app with a good server, EJB, JDBC and a good datastore -- good business environment. ..."
I strongly agree, this is exactly what we are doing in our company. We have Windows, Linux and MAC desktops One large same desktop application runs on all clients, connects to TomEE, MySQL running on a Linux server. ========= Mithat Karaoglu Email: mithat.karao...@gmail.com On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 10:12 AM, Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote: > The Java desktop hasn't really found a place in software for small and > medium businesses -- probably because .NET is so dominant in that space. > However, that does not mean that the Java desktop has failed, since there's > a LOT more in the software world than software for small and medium > business. How about, for example, large business or let's say industrial > business, e.g., scientific data modeling (in banks, aerospace, etc) -- > that's where there's more Java desktop software. The Java desktop, again, > is not so common for the consumer marker, but all the more so for large > back office systems. > > Gj > > > On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 4:06 PM, Miroslav Nachev < > mnachev.nscenter...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> In support of what Chuck Davis said, I would like to say that more than >> 90% of the software for small and medium businesses in Bulgaria is made on >> Microsoft .NET and MS SQL Server Express. >> For example, accounting and payroll software for micro and small >> businesses is primarily on .NET, where the Web is not used. >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 4:49 PM, Chuck Davis <cjgun...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Microsoft doesn't create the desktop apps. They created a rich >>> environment for businesses to create the apps. Can you say Intuit (their >>> on-line version is not a big hit from what I've heard)? Nearly all >>> accounting packages are built for Windows only. Nearly everything used in >>> businesses is built for Windows only. I work currently in agriculture. >>> Our packing houses (and Ag is a huge industry) are run by software only >>> available on Windows desktops -- certainly not browsers. >>> >>> Small businesses are not flocking to browser interfaces to get their >>> real work done. >>> >>> If one looks only at Microsoft apps (and there are currently good >>> alternatives to those) he misses the big picture. It's the rich >>> development environment they have provided that allows businesses to create >>> the apps we need to run our businesses -- unfortunately on Windows only. >>> Java is the only viable alternative. >>> >>> I don't belong to the crowd who thinks Swing has been a failure. It's >>> been wonderful in my experience (thanks in large part to NB). But I've >>> become quite taken with FX as well (developed nicely with NB) -- for me >>> it's been a great journey to become proficient with it. It's still got >>> serious warts I hope get fixed soon but it's a great start. If FX falters >>> I'll revert to Swing in a heartbeat. Desktop development, in my opinion, >>> doesn't get any better than Java. Combine a Java desktop app with a good >>> server, EJB, JDBC and a good datastore -- good business environment. >>> >>> What mobile has done is teach people that for a good user experience you >>> need to download an app -- not a browser. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 1:29 AM Emilian Bold <emilian.b...@protonmail.ch> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> What new desktop apps did Microsoft release in the past years? >>>> >>>> They have a monopoly on office productivity apps (Word / Excel) but >>>> what other desktop software products are these 'small businesses' buying? >>>> >>>> Small businesses may be the biggest employer but they are not the >>>> biggest software (desktop) developer employers. >>>> >>>> The data just doesn't show this: where are the successful products, the >>>> companies catering to small business, the jobs? >>>> >>>> --emi >>>> >>>> >> >
