I would like to use the JDK discovery feature, but have had issues, I
opened:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/MTOOLCHAINS/issues/MTOOLCHAINS-53
MTOOLCHAINS-60 looks similar. MTOOLCHAINS-58 complains about not finding
Java 8 installations.

I welcome any help Mikko can give to make this work better.

On Mon, Feb 3, 2025 at 1:06 AM Guillaume Nodet <gno...@apache.org> wrote:

> The toolchains discovery has been released a few months ago:
>
>
> https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-toolchains-plugin/toolchains/jdk-discovery.html
> This is also usable in Maven 3.x.
>
> I think that should cover your use case.
> The enforcer check does not really need to be performed because the
> toolchain selection
> will ensure that the selected toolchain matches the input range.
>
> Le lun. 3 févr. 2025 à 07:12, Mikko Johannes Koivunalho <
> mikko.koivuna...@iki.fi> a écrit :
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am forwarding this message to Maven Developer List.
> >
> > Before getting to any development, I'd like to know more about planned
> > Maven4 improvements in the area of toolchains.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Mikko Koivunalho
> >
> > On 02/02/2025 19:28, Tamás Cservenák wrote:
> > > Howdy,
> > >
> > > TBH, I never understood why toolchains are not ALWAYS used
> > > with one (always) available toolchain, the Java that runs Maven
> > > itself, so this would be your fallback.
> > >
> > > Re enforcer, yes, probably we need new rules that would behave
> > > as you describe.
> > >
> > > Hence, yes, this would be a good direction.
> > >
> > > OTOH, for Maven4 we do have some improvements in this area,
> > > like auto discovery, so any contribution is welcome!
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > T
> > >
> > > On Sun, Feb 2, 2025 at 6:35 PM Mikko Johannes Koivunalho
> > > <mikko.koivuna...@iki.fi> wrote:
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> I work with many Maven projects which require building with different
> > >> JDKs: Java 8, Java 11, Java 17, and so on. I have all these installed
> > >> side by side in my build machine.
> > >>
> > >> Maven Toolchains plugin is very helpful because it prevents me from
> > >> being forced to reconfigure environment variable JAVA_HOME when I move
> > >> between Maven projects.
> > >>
> > >> However, for those who only use one of those projects, configuring the
> > >> toolchains and JDKs is too complicated. They have their Java already
> > >> configured to use the correct JDK.
> > >>
> > >> It would be convenient if Maven Toolchains plugin had a fallback mode:
> > >> when the file .m2/toolchains.xml is not present, i.e. the toolchains
> are
> > >> not configured, Maven Toolchains plugin would simply fall back to use
> > >> the same Java as Maven itself uses.
> > >>
> > >> Maven Toolchains plugin could have a setting to allow the fallback. By
> > >> default, the fallback would not be allowed. This is the behavior now.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Even when using toolchains, I am also using Maven Enforcer rule
> > >> RequireJavaVersion to limit the range of usable Java versions. This
> rule
> > >> only tracks the version of the Java runtime Maven itself is using so
> it
> > >> is not compatible with Maven Toolschains.
> > >>
> > >> To work with Maven Toolchains plugin and remain backwards compatible,
> > >> Maven Enforcer would need a new rule, maybe
> > >> "RequireJDKVersion", "RequireToolchainJavaVersion" or
> > >> "RequireJavaCompilerVersion". It would also have to work with the
> > >> fallback mode as described above.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Would the above be the right direction to develop Maven Toolchains?
> > >> Thanks for all comments.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Sincerely,
> > >> Mikko Koivunalho
> > >>
> > >>
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