Hello Sergio

Thx for your info. So LDP is really meta-level only (hence the explicit 
container stuff) complementing Sparql.

Guess I wrongly thought the functionality would be more like pubby 
(http://wifo5-03.informatik.uni-mannheim.de/pubby/) making rdf resources 
directly accessible by HTTP in the browser. In Pubby the functionality is more 
like "on top of Sparql".

Do you know  of any w3c work in this direction? (http access to dereferenced 
resource content)?

Would this be actually be more like the LDPath functionality offered?

Thx Michel

Dr. ir. H.M. (Michel) Bohms
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Structural Reliability
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-----Original Message-----
From: Sergio Fernández [mailto:wik...@apache.org] 
Sent: dinsdag 9 september 2014 9:34
To: users@marmotta.apache.org
Subject: Re: using LDP

Hi Michel,

On 08/09/14 12:31, Bohms, H.M. (Michel) wrote:
> After using joseki/fuseki as RDF server/sparql querying I now 
> investigate Marmotta triggered by experimental support of http 
> querying (ldp).

Please, notice that LDP does not define a query language. But the use of HTTP 
for accessing, updating, creating and deleting resources from servers that 
expose their resources as Linked Data. Basically it provides clarifications and 
extensions of the rules of Linked Data.

Further details at the current W3C Candidate Recommendation:

   http://www.w3.org/TR/ldp/

> As a newbee however I find it very hard to get the LDP  stuff to work. 
>When I look in the specs/examples I see  "container"-stuff added to 
>ontologies where I thought I could just do a HTTP request to specific 
>or sets of  classes, properties and/or individuals (I still hope  this 
>IS possible as a kind of simpler alternative to  SPARQL).

No, LDP is not an alternative to SPARQL. It does not work at the triples level, 
but at the resources level.

> Can someone point me to some kind of LDP "idiot guide"
> with simple examples? I.e. some simple URIs for doing LDP to some 
> simple ontology uploaded to Marmotta involving class and individual 
> level.

I'd say the LDP Primer is what you are looking for:

   http://www.w3.org/TR/ldp-primer/

Hope that helps.

Cheers,

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