Adrian,

An option is to involve the modex.

each task would OPAL_MODEX_SEND() its own namespace ID, and then OPAL_MODEX_RECV()

the one from its peers and decide whether CMA support can be enabled.


Cheers,


Gilles

On 7/22/2019 4:53 PM, Adrian Reber via users wrote:
I had a look at it and not sure if it really makes sense.

In btl_vader_{put,get}.c it would be easy to check for the user
namespace ID of the other process, but the function would then just
return OPAL_ERROR a bit earlier instead of as a result of
process_vm_{read,write}v(). Nothing would really change.

A better place for the check would be mca_btl_vader_check_single_copy()
but I do not know if at this point the PID of the other processes is
already known. Not sure if I can check for the user namespace ID of the
other processes.

Any recommendations how to do this?

                Adrian

On Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 03:08:01PM -0400, Nathan Hjelm wrote:
Patches are always welcome. What would be great is a nice big warning that CMA 
support is disabled because the processes are on different namespaces. Ideally 
all MPI processes should be on the same namespace to ensure the best 
performance.

-Nathan

On Jul 21, 2019, at 2:53 PM, Adrian Reber via users <users@lists.open-mpi.org> 
wrote:

For completeness I am mentioning my results also here.

To be able to mount file systems in the container it can only work if
user namespaces are used and even if the user IDs are all the same (in
each container and on the host), to be able to ptrace the kernel also
checks if the processes are in the same user namespace (in addition to
being owned by the same user). This check - same user namespace - fails
and so process_vm_readv() and process_vm_writev() will also fail.

So Open MPI's checks are currently not enough to detect if 'cma' can be
used. Checking for the same user namespace would also be necessary.

Is this a use case important enough to accept a patch for it?

        Adrian

On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 03:42:15PM +0200, Adrian Reber via users wrote:
Gilles,

thanks again. Adding '--mca btl_vader_single_copy_mechanism none' helps
indeed.

The default seems to be 'cma' and that seems to use process_vm_readv()
and process_vm_writev(). That seems to require CAP_SYS_PTRACE, but
telling Podman to give the process CAP_SYS_PTRACE with '--cap-add=SYS_PTRACE'
does not seem to be enough. Not sure yet if this related to the fact
that Podman is running rootless. I will continue to investigate, but now
I know where to look. Thanks!

        Adrian

On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 06:48:59PM +0900, Gilles Gouaillardet via users wrote:
Adrian,

Can you try
mpirun --mca btl_vader_copy_mechanism none ...

Please double check the MCA parameter name, I am AFK

IIRC, the default copy mechanism used by vader directly accesses the remote 
process address space, and this requires some permission (ptrace?) that might 
be dropped by podman.

Note Open MPI might not detect both MPI tasks run on the same node because of 
podman.
If you use UCX, then btl/vader is not used at all (pml/ucx is used instead)


Cheers,

Gilles

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On Jul 12, 2019, at 18:33, Adrian Reber via users <users@lists.open-mpi.org> 
wrote:

So upstream Podman was really fast and merged a PR which makes my
wrapper unnecessary:

Add support for --env-host : https://github.com/containers/libpod/pull/3557

As commented in the PR I can now start mpirun with Podman without a
wrapper:

$ mpirun --hostfile ~/hosts --mca orte_tmpdir_base /tmp/podman-mpirun podman 
run --env-host --security-opt label=disable -v 
/tmp/podman-mpirun:/tmp/podman-mpirun --userns=keep-id --net=host mpi-test 
/home/mpi/ring
Rank 0 has cleared MPI_Init
Rank 1 has cleared MPI_Init
Rank 0 has completed ring
Rank 0 has completed MPI_Barrier
Rank 1 has completed ring
Rank 1 has completed MPI_Barrier

This is example was using TCP and on an InfiniBand based system I have
to map the InfiniBand devices into the container.

$ mpirun --mca btl ^openib --hostfile ~/hosts --mca orte_tmpdir_base 
/tmp/podman-mpirun podman run --env-host -v 
/tmp/podman-mpirun:/tmp/podman-mpirun --security-opt label=disable 
--userns=keep-id --device /dev/infiniband/uverbs0 --device 
/dev/infiniband/umad0 --device /dev/infiniband/rdma_cm --net=host mpi-test 
/home/mpi/ring
Rank 0 has cleared MPI_Init
Rank 1 has cleared MPI_Init
Rank 0 has completed ring
Rank 0 has completed MPI_Barrier
Rank 1 has completed ring
Rank 1 has completed MPI_Barrier

This is all running without root and only using Podman's rootless
support.

Running multiple processes on one system, however, still gives me an
error. If I disable vader I guess that Open MPI is using TCP for
localhost communication and that works. But with vader it fails.

The first error message I get is a segfault:

[test1:00001] *** Process received signal ***
[test1:00001] Signal: Segmentation fault (11)
[test1:00001] Signal code: Address not mapped (1)
[test1:00001] Failing at address: 0x7fb7b1552010
[test1:00001] [ 0] /lib64/libpthread.so.0(+0x12d80)[0x7f6299456d80]
[test1:00001] [ 1] 
/usr/lib64/openmpi/lib/openmpi/mca_btl_vader.so(mca_btl_vader_send+0x3db)[0x7f628b33ab0b]
[test1:00001] [ 2] 
/usr/lib64/openmpi/lib/openmpi/mca_pml_ob1.so(mca_pml_ob1_send_request_start_rdma+0x1fb)[0x7f62901d24bb]
[test1:00001] [ 3] 
/usr/lib64/openmpi/lib/openmpi/mca_pml_ob1.so(mca_pml_ob1_send+0xfd6)[0x7f62901be086]
[test1:00001] [ 4] 
/usr/lib64/openmpi/lib/libmpi.so.40(PMPI_Send+0x1bd)[0x7f62996f862d]
[test1:00001] [ 5] /home/mpi/ring[0x400b76]
[test1:00001] [ 6] /lib64/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xf3)[0x7f62990a3813]
[test1:00001] [ 7] /home/mpi/ring[0x4008be]
[test1:00001] *** End of error message ***

Guessing that vader uses shared memory this is expected to fail, with
all the namespace isolations in place. Maybe not with a segfault, but
each container has its own shared memory. So next step was to use the
host's ipc and pid namespace and mount /dev/shm:

'-v /dev/shm:/dev/shm --ipc=host --pid=host'

Which does not segfault, but still does not look correct:

Rank 0 has cleared MPI_Init
Rank 1 has cleared MPI_Init
Rank 2 has cleared MPI_Init
[test1:17722] Read -1, expected 80000, errno = 1
[test1:17722] Read -1, expected 80000, errno = 1
[test1:17722] Read -1, expected 80000, errno = 1
[test1:17722] Read -1, expected 80000, errno = 1
[test1:17722] Read -1, expected 80000, errno = 1
[test1:17722] Read -1, expected 80000, errno = 1
[test1:17722] Read -1, expected 80000, errno = 1
[test1:17722] Read -1, expected 80000, errno = 1
[test1:17722] Read -1, expected 80000, errno = 1
[test1:17722] Read -1, expected 80000, errno = 1
[test1:17722] Read -1, expected 80000, errno = 1
Rank 0 has completed ring
Rank 2 has completed ring
Rank 0 has completed MPI_Barrier
Rank 1 has completed ring
Rank 2 has completed MPI_Barrier
Rank 1 has completed MPI_Barrier

This is using the Open MPI ring.c example with SIZE increased from 20 to 20000.

Any recommendations what vader needs to communicate correctly?

       Adrian

On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 12:07:35PM +0200, Adrian Reber via users wrote:
Gilles,

thanks for pointing out the environment variables. I quickly created a
wrapper which tells Podman to re-export all OMPI_ and PMIX_ variables
(grep "\(PMIX\|OMPI\)"). Now it works:

$ mpirun --hostfile ~/hosts ./wrapper -v /tmp:/tmp --userns=keep-id --net=host 
mpi-test /home/mpi/hello

Hello, world (2 procs total)
   --> Process #   0 of   2 is alive. ->test1
   --> Process #   1 of   2 is alive. ->test2

I need to tell Podman to mount /tmp from the host into the container, as
I am running rootless I also need to tell Podman to use the same user ID
in the container as outside (so that the Open MPI files in /tmp) can be
shared and I am also running without a network namespace.

So this is now with the full Podman provided isolation except the
network namespace. Thanks for you help!

       Adrian

On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 04:47:21PM +0900, Gilles Gouaillardet via users wrote:
Adrian,


the MPI application relies on some environment variables (they typically
start with OMPI_ and PMIX_).

The MPI application internally uses a PMIx client that must be able to
contact a PMIx server

(that is included in mpirun and the orted daemon(s) spawned on the remote
hosts).

located on the same host.


If podman provides some isolation between the app inside the container (e.g.
/home/mpi/hello)

and the outside world (e.g. mpirun/orted), that won't be an easy ride.


Cheers,


Gilles


On 7/11/2019 4:35 PM, Adrian Reber via users wrote:
I did a quick test to see if I can use Podman in combination with Open
MPI:

[test@test1 ~]$ mpirun --hostfile ~/hosts podman run 
quay.io/adrianreber/mpi-test /home/mpi/hello

Hello, world (1 procs total)
    --> Process #   0 of   1 is alive. ->789b8fb622ef

Hello, world (1 procs total)
    --> Process #   0 of   1 is alive. ->749eb4e1c01a

The test program (hello) is taken from 
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/openhpc/ohpc/obs/OpenHPC_1.3.8_Factory/tests/mpi/hello.c


The problem with this is that each process thinks it is process 0 of 1
instead of

Hello, world (2 procs total)
    --> Process #   1 of   2 is alive.  ->test1
    --> Process #   0 of   2 is alive.  ->test2

My questions is how is the rank determined? What resources do I need to have
in my container to correctly determine the rank.

This is Podman 1.4.2 and Open MPI 4.0.1.

       Adrian
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