Dear George, Dear all,

A question regarding program design:
The draft that I have sent to you has to be done many and many times. Does
the splitting procedure ensure efficiency?

I will try, at a lest to create groups and split them. I am a beginner in
the MPI groups environment.
really, really thanks.

You are my lifesaver.



Diego


On 26 July 2017 at 15:09, George Bosilca <bosi...@icl.utk.edu> wrote:

> Diego,
>
> As all your processes are started under the umbrella of a single mpirun,
> they have a communicator in common, the MPI_COMM_WORLD.
>
> One possible implementation, using MPI_Comm_split, will be the following:
>
> MPI_Comm small_comm, leader_comm;
>
> /* Create small_comm on all processes */
>
> /* Now use MPI_Comm_split on MPI_COMM_WORLD to select the leaders */
> MPI_Comm_split( MPI_COMM_WORLD,
>                              i_am_leader(small_comm) ? 1 : MPI_UNDEFINED,
>                          rank_in_comm_world,
>                          &leader_Comm);
>
> The leader_comm will be a valid communicator on all leaders processes, and
> MPI_COMM_NULL on all others.
>
>   George.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 4:29 AM, Diego Avesani <diego.aves...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear George, Dear all,
>>
>> I use "mpirun -np xx ./a.out"
>>
>> I do not know if I have some common  grounds. I mean, I have to
>> design everything from the begging. You can find what I would like to do in
>> the attachment. Basically, an MPI cast in another MPI. Consequently, I am
>> thinking to MPI groups or MPI virtual topology with a 2D cart, using the
>> columns as "groups" and the first rows as the external groups to handle the
>> columns.
>>
>> What do think? What do you suggest?
>> Really Really thanks
>>
>>
>> Diego
>>
>>
>> On 25 July 2017 at 19:26, George Bosilca <bosi...@icl.utk.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Diego,
>>>
>>> Assuming you have some common  grounds between the 4 initial groups
>>> (otherwise you will have to connect them via 
>>> MPI_Comm_connect/MPI_Comm_accept)
>>> you can merge the 4 groups together and then use any MPI mechanism to
>>> create a partial group of leaders (such as MPI_Comm_split).
>>>
>>> If you spawn the groups via MPI_Comm_spawn then the answer is slightly
>>> more complicated, you need to use MPI_Intercomm_create, with the spawner as
>>> the bridge between the different communicators (and then
>>> MPI_Intercomm_merge to create your intracomm). You can find a good answer
>>> on stackoverflow on this at https://stackoverflow.com/ques
>>> tions/24806782/mpi-merge-multiple-intercoms-into-a-single-intracomm
>>>
>>> How is your MPI environment started (single mpirun or mpi_comm_spawn) ?
>>>
>>>   George.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 10:44 AM, Diego Avesani <diego.aves...@gmail.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear All,
>>>>
>>>> I am studying Groups and Communicators, but before start going in
>>>> detail, I have a question about groups.
>>>>
>>>> I would like to know if is it possible to create a group of masters of
>>>> the other groups and then a intra-communication in the new group. I have
>>>> spent sometime reading different tutorial and presentation, but it is
>>>> difficult, at least for me, to understand if is it possible to create this
>>>> sort of MPI cast in another MPI.
>>>>
>>>> In the attachment you can find a pictures that summarize what I would
>>>> like to do.
>>>>
>>>> Another strategies could be use virtual topology.
>>>>
>>>> What do you think?
>>>>
>>>> I really, really, appreciate any kind of help, suggestions or link
>>>> where I can study this topics.
>>>>
>>>> Again, thanks
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Diego
>>>>
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